tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post1429782249041322238..comments2024-03-29T08:01:51.705+00:00Comments on The Pub Curmudgeon: Crafty tinkersCurmudgeonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-23003851380508515912014-07-21T14:33:13.669+01:002014-07-21T14:33:13.669+01:00Irish struggling to get the idea of Spoons.
This ...<a href="http://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/features/about-to-get-hammered-by-the-english-276055.html" rel="nofollow">Irish struggling to get the idea of Spoons</a>.<br /><br />This is telling:<br /><br /><i>"...young families and pensioners sat happily among post-work suits, and almost everyone was ordering food. For a Wednesday evening, in what is normally a slightly dead village, the place was packed and, for the life of me, I couldn’t understand why. Was it that weird curiosity we have about all things British? Maybe it was the rumoured low cost. "</i>Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-27791218331476496332014-07-04T16:26:47.683+01:002014-07-04T16:26:47.683+01:00I don't see why not.
The Irish have gone for j...I don't see why not.<br />The Irish have gone for just about everything else from the UK - newspapers ( Sun,Mail,Star,Mirror) television ( rugby matches on exclusively Irish language channel TG4 are always shown mute in my local ) shops ( Boots,Debenhams,M&S,Tesco )football clubs ( " Premier League till I die. " )<br />Most Irish towns are indistinguishable from the average British high street and Irish culture (music,literature and art) has virtually disappeared from everyday life here.<br />I wish it wasn't the case - the homogeonisation of Ireland is sad to see and apart from Gaelic sport which is thriving this country has lost its unique identity within a couple of decades.<br />It was highlighted to me a couple of years ago when I witnessed an old feller trying to start a sing-song in a pub only to be hushed because there was an inconsequential,mid-table Premier League match on the box.<br />Jaysus, when I first came here I wouldn't open my mouth in certain pubs because of the accent.<br />Now I can't remember the last time I was called an English bastard.<br />Wahaay !Professor Pie-Tinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-2555069101744024712014-07-04T11:22:02.635+01:002014-07-04T11:22:02.635+01:00The most interesting thing about Spoons move into ...The most interesting thing about Spoons move into Ireland isn't the menu or the prices. It's whether the Irish go for the Spoons model. The cheap McPub. I guess a yes they will.<br /><br />Spoons would get nowhere expanding into France, Scandinavia, Holland, Germany. Obviously they think Irish pub culture will go for a Spoons. Maybe Benidorm & Magaluf would go for a Spoons, Spain in general wouldn't.<br /><br />Once they have established the supply chain in Ireland, they will set up in every town that has a Macdonalds.<br /><br />Paddy O'Semtexes traditional craig pub is in for a rough ride.<br />Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-65779217927952490182014-07-03T14:41:48.397+01:002014-07-03T14:41:48.397+01:00CL: I second the term "creg".CL: I second the term "creg".Neville Grundyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10923209266005338452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-51683412770933433482014-07-03T08:12:32.518+01:002014-07-03T08:12:32.518+01:00craft keg is to unweldly and not down with the kid...craft keg is to unweldly and not down with the kids.<br /><br />I propose the term "creg"Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-73790534408499185292014-07-02T22:48:23.676+01:002014-07-02T22:48:23.676+01:00Interestingly,Guinness have quietly canned the dre...Interestingly,Guinness have quietly canned the dreadful Arthur's Day whichy had turned into a bit of a PR disaster.<br />Far from helping the brand the drunkeness and violence that accompanied this annual event had the dreaded reverse-Stella effect instead.<br />Guinness marketing types laughingly described it as " freshening up " the brand's image.<br /><br />http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/guinness-scraps-arthur-s-day-for-new-music-promotion-1.1853223Professor Pie-Tinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-91944748700393163632014-07-02T22:13:12.288+01:002014-07-02T22:13:12.288+01:00Sorry, Freudian slip there! Yes I did mean "K...Sorry, Freudian slip there! Yes I did mean "KEG" beers, although the word I was actually going to use was "CRAFT". Many would say they are the same thing, so "craft keg" would have been the most accurate description.Paul Baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09678639237696546268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-33737245982038937512014-07-02T19:43:40.447+01:002014-07-02T19:43:40.447+01:00an impressive variety of locally-brewed, Irish Cas...<i>an impressive variety of locally-brewed, Irish Cask Beer</i><br /><br />I guess you meant 'keg'?Philhttp://ohgoodale.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-51624664615086318552014-07-02T19:42:57.041+01:002014-07-02T19:42:57.041+01:00Paul, don't you mean "impressive variety ...Paul, don't you mean <i>"impressive variety of locally-brewed, Irish KEG Beers."?</i>Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-68696019885813567412014-07-02T19:38:55.268+01:002014-07-02T19:38:55.268+01:00The imminent opening of a “Spoons” in Ireland was ...The imminent opening of a “Spoons” in Ireland was touched on, at the EBBC, in Dublin last weekend. There were quite a few, in both the audience, and also amongst some of the Irish Craft Brewers present, who were not quite sure what to expect. <br /><br />Fellow blogger, BryanB and I were able to lay to rest the myth about JWD buying beer close to its “sell by date”, and also assured some of the delegates that whilst the company would expect a hefty discount, it would not insist on unsustainable price cuts.<br /><br />This was my first visit to both Dublin and Ireland, and from what I saw of the beer scene in the Irish capital, cask has been almost completely over-looked. Pubs and bars have gone straight from offering the “Holy Trinity” of nationally-branded black, red and gold (Stout, Irish Ale and lager), to selling an impressive variety of locally-brewed, Irish Cask Beers. It’s almost as if the “real ale revolution” never happened which, if you look back for a moment, it never actually did in the Irish Republic.<br /><br />I saw just three pubs with a token hand-pump, and as no-one seemed to be drinking the stuff, I wasn’t prepared to fork out €6 for a flat, and potentially vinegary pint.<br /><br />For an in-depth view of Cask Beer in Ireland, read BryanB’s post on the subject. http://blog.beerviking.net/2014/06/cask-beer-in-ireland.html<br />Paul Baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09678639237696546268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-60673303637099815872014-07-02T14:25:49.782+01:002014-07-02T14:25:49.782+01:00PTP: Cheaper then BrewDog Manchester for most.PTP: Cheaper then BrewDog Manchester for most.Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-30230419361553079102014-07-02T14:10:09.060+01:002014-07-02T14:10:09.060+01:00Staying hip with the Brewdog crowd comes at a pric...Staying hip with the Brewdog crowd comes at a price too<br /><br />www.broadsheet.ie/2013/11/22/would-you-pay-e9-for-a-pint/Professor Pie-Tinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-75872459373914094032014-07-02T13:51:57.998+01:002014-07-02T13:51:57.998+01:00and for the extra €2 I expect the orange chubby la...and for the extra €2 I expect the orange chubby lasses to be oranger and chubbier and even more dirty when they drag you round to the bins to molest you.Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-111182425408621142014-07-02T13:47:28.748+01:002014-07-02T13:47:28.748+01:00€2,00 extra for beer with your burger in the Oiris...€2,00 extra for beer with your burger in the Oirish Spoons.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-69662074923249500842014-07-02T13:43:42.710+01:002014-07-02T13:43:42.710+01:00In the 90's they inflicted the "oirish&qu...In the 90's they inflicted the "oirish" pub on England. We still have some right shabby ones knocking about.<br /><br />It's time we got out own back and inflicted the Spoons value pub. Soon all pubs will be spoons and all burgers will come with a beer.Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-86777802598796378142014-07-02T13:40:51.414+01:002014-07-02T13:40:51.414+01:00As the Spoons drinks menu says they will have 398m...As the Spoons drinks menu says they will have 398ml glasses of Pepsi, Diet, Pepsi and R. Whites Lemonade, I assume these will be "draught". And has a free mixer with every spirit. So yes, basically.<br /><br />Can't you educate the missus into drinking that lovely cloudy craft beer stuff?Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-25195571525102998112014-07-02T13:26:03.845+01:002014-07-02T13:26:03.845+01:00Its a shame, because Ireland is such a great drink...Its a shame, because Ireland is such a great drinking country in many ways, but they do really screw you on price. <br /><br />The beer was expensive, but finding something for the missus to drink was worse, they don't have postmix, so the usual cheap option of a shot and a splash doesn't exist: you'll pay E5 for the shot and another E2 for a tiny soft drink to go with it. Ouch.<br /><br />I wonder if spoons will have postmix? That might be as profound a revolution as pushing cask.pynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-77680524068393931942014-07-02T12:44:03.977+01:002014-07-02T12:44:03.977+01:00@Mudgie.
In cities it has to a certain degree.
But...@Mudgie.<br />In cities it has to a certain degree.<br />But the rest of the country is much slower to catch on.<br />And Pub Grub is simply not a phrase you come across very often.<br />Put bluntly the attitude I hear most often is " why would you go to a pub to waste money on food when there's a woman at home who can cook a meal for you. "<br />Old-fashioned attitudes are hard to change. I live near a very popular tourist town and there are still pubs that serve food which insist on closing every Monday as they always have done even though it's the height of the season and there are punters wandering around looking for something to eat.<br />Often they're the same publicans who look at you like you're from another planet if you ask for the wifi code.<br />Commercial madness.Professor Pie-Tinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-529536458300941602014-07-02T12:30:52.543+01:002014-07-02T12:30:52.543+01:00The only time I've ever visited the Republic w...The only time I've ever visited the Republic was twenty years ago. The thing that really struck me was that it was well-nigh impossible to find the kind of decent, varied lunchtime pub grub that is ubiquitous in Great Britain. I don't know if things have improved since then.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-62707223239970687932014-07-02T12:26:14.055+01:002014-07-02T12:26:14.055+01:00Dublin pubs are a different beast altogether from ...Dublin pubs are a different beast altogether from the rest of Ireland - much like London and the UK.<br /><br />And Blackrock is an affluent suburb of Dublin.<br /><br />What's going to be really interesting is when 'Spoons roll out the complete package - drink and food - across Ireland because that's when I think they're going to shake up the somnolent and at times downright greedy Irish publicans.<br /><br />The all-day drinking and eating opportunity is comparatively rare in Ireland and the site they've bagged in my nearest city is a prime shopping location.<br /><br />Tim Martin is a canny operator - he pulled out of a planned launch in Ireland some years ago when property prices were still too high - and I think he's pitched the timing and pricing of this latest adventure perfectly.<br /><br />You see, it's so expensive here that even expensive to you is cheap to us !Professor Pie-Tinnoreply@blogger.com