tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post2110393813107935752..comments2024-03-16T04:06:28.481+00:00Comments on The Pub Curmudgeon: You can turn backCurmudgeonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-38193530191157687162012-02-08T15:01:30.951+00:002012-02-08T15:01:30.951+00:00Such as? No appeals to authority, please, state na...Such as? No appeals to authority, please, state names, papers, numbers,methodologies, all the usual boring bits so often neglected. Surprise us with one we don't yet know about.Franknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-22158303733430194752012-02-08T01:52:55.299+00:002012-02-08T01:52:55.299+00:00There is no scientifically credible evidence that ...There is no scientifically credible evidence that environmental tobacco smoke represents a danger to health anyway - WRONGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-32360624170663960822010-11-08T21:28:34.892+00:002010-11-08T21:28:34.892+00:00And supported here by Mark Daniels (always a smoki...And supported <a href="http://www.thepublican.com/story.asp?sectioncode=16&storycode=68363" rel="nofollow">here</a> by Mark Daniels (always a smoking ban agnostic, not a diehard opponent) in <i>The Publican</i>.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-22371842344614260402010-11-08T13:48:09.959+00:002010-11-08T13:48:09.959+00:00I've rarely read such a short, yet precise and...I've rarely read such a short, yet precise and accurate analysis of the situation. Trevor Kavanagh, of the Sun, would be proud of it. And I do mean that as a compliment. It is is far more difficult to write for the Sun than the Guardian or Times and Kavanagh is the master.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-9351363051162107892010-11-08T10:56:24.460+00:002010-11-08T10:56:24.460+00:00If you want to alter the smoking ban you need to p...If you want to alter the smoking ban you need to put the fear of god into the political classes. The fear of electoral defeat. That is only way you'll alter anything. How you do that I'll leave to you.Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-14107306894592649022010-11-07T18:49:06.179+00:002010-11-07T18:49:06.179+00:00Yes, in my experience most bar staff are smokers a...Yes, in my experience most bar staff are smokers anyway. In the old days it was a perennial source of grievance amongst antismokers that they would stand "in the hatch" smoking.<br /><br />And the proposals for amending the smoking ban in the UK tend to be that smoking should only be permitted in rooms separate from the servery, and in which there is no table service, so any exposure of bar staff to ETS would be minimal.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-57083235495080556452010-11-07T18:45:17.974+00:002010-11-07T18:45:17.974+00:00I am used to the bar staff of my local going outsi...I am used to the bar staff of my local going outside for a smoke every so often so the claims about staff are quite daft in my view.Meer For Beerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06491541613823327962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-57138842130977938862010-11-07T18:23:43.789+00:002010-11-07T18:23:43.789+00:00The Alchemists of the Anti-Smoking lobby will be s...The Alchemists of the Anti-Smoking lobby will be shedding tears of anguish into their cauldronsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-64228389361087924022010-11-07T18:02:02.000+00:002010-11-07T18:02:02.000+00:00I read a few years ago that bars in New York (I th...I read a few years ago that bars in New York (I think it was) that employ no one and which are run exclusively by the owner can allow smoking.Neville Grundyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10923209266005338452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-15914134336061088032010-11-07T17:05:33.793+00:002010-11-07T17:05:33.793+00:00"If it can happen in Holland, it can happen h..."If it can happen in Holland, it can happen here."<br /><br />I think a few things can legally happen in Holland and yet they have not yet happened here.Woodsy42https://www.blogger.com/profile/12355671210161625647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-85706567240339701022010-11-07T16:53:46.228+00:002010-11-07T16:53:46.228+00:00It can happen here
All that is needed is an avala...<b>It can happen here</b><br /><br />All that is needed is an avalanche of public opinion, and then things will move very rapidly indeed. Once momentum gains traction then no amount of shouting from the antis will make the slightest bit of difference.<br /><br />Always remember…there are two sentiments that drive the stock market – greed and fear. When greed has had its fill then fear suddenly takes over and whatever commentators say nothing can reverse it…until again sentiment changes.<br /><br />We need the support of the Dutch to prod our backsides into action, and other European countries too.JJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05239651363530826401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-59339947471717012692010-11-07T16:22:52.173+00:002010-11-07T16:22:52.173+00:00The Dutch will still have non smoking bars but now...The Dutch will still have non smoking bars but now they will have smoking bars too.<br />It's simply called choice.<br />Dutch Liberalism and common sense prevail, I hope so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com