tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post2489166777427024708..comments2024-03-28T17:11:52.333+00:00Comments on The Pub Curmudgeon: A case in point Curmudgeonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-11194137740856056182016-09-29T07:54:18.949+01:002016-09-29T07:54:18.949+01:00Spot on, Nev, that's exactly what's happen...Spot on, Nev, that's exactly what's happening here.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09310220100267028274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-82208052015930937312016-09-28T22:26:24.179+01:002016-09-28T22:26:24.179+01:00Mudge and Matt make good points about the loss of ...Mudge and Matt make good points about the loss of a particular type of amenity i.e. a proper wet-led pub, and I doubt the local community are going to club together even if the pub was sold as a going concern. Many of these community acquisitions seem to me to be private dining clubs-cum-property investments by rich villagers. retiredmartinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15429804437739227082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-72479944634399878262016-09-28T22:20:20.581+01:002016-09-28T22:20:20.581+01:00Plenty of existing pubs have been converted to a d...Plenty of existing pubs have been converted to a dining format, including Holts' Griffin at Heald Green which is probably the nearest pub to the Ryecroft.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-54867763535988356082016-09-28T16:32:25.397+01:002016-09-28T16:32:25.397+01:00Micro pub is a good idea, unfortunately there are ...Micro pub is a good idea, unfortunately there are no empty units in the precinct. Do you think anyone might be considering moving out; I wonder how the dog groomer is doing?Malcolm Nichollshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04114433389090892217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-56281121834403958762016-09-28T16:01:20.378+01:002016-09-28T16:01:20.378+01:00The fact that owners are applying for planning per...The fact that owners are applying for planning permission does not <i>necessarily</i> mean the pub is not viable. It might simply be that they fancy the size of the windfall they'll get from redevelopment. RedNevhttp://rednev-rearm.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-12437443071617677832016-09-28T12:12:30.850+01:002016-09-28T12:12:30.850+01:00A family dining pub may be a profitable option, bu...A family dining pub may be a profitable option, but they most likely wouldn't want to use an old building. Marstons are building a couple around here and they are putting up new buildings rather than using existing ones. Building a modern style pub/restaurant on a greenfield site costs a lot less than they can get by selling an existing building for housing, plus they get a custom-designed pub rather than having to squeeze their restaurant into an existing layout.Beermunsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09564489130909572144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-91651893672025788492016-09-28T07:41:27.129+01:002016-09-28T07:41:27.129+01:00A micropub would be better than nothing, but it wo...A micropub would be better than nothing, but it wouldn't have a games room where you can play pool or darts and a lounge where you can watch football or go to a karaoke night as the Ryecroft Arms does now.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09310220100267028274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-13543624635880137452016-09-27T15:07:53.377+01:002016-09-27T15:07:53.377+01:00A smaller pub in that location might do fine - whi...A smaller pub in that location might do fine - which is why I suggested opening a micropub in the shopping parade. Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-51552784121126254692016-09-27T14:37:34.237+01:002016-09-27T14:37:34.237+01:00I drink semi-regularly in the Ryecroft Arms as it&...I drink semi-regularly in the Ryecroft Arms as it's the nearest pub which still shows live football (and even then it's over a mile away). It's busy on match days and, unlike me, most of the drinkers seem to be regulars, with the staff and the customers knowing each other by their first names. I know there were a couple of incidents a few years ago, but I wouldn't call it a rough pub. Working-class and wet-led yes, and no doubt as you say much more valuable to Hydes as land on which a developer can build houses, but still a decent community pub, with friendly staff and well-kept, cheap cask beer (recently it's been 1863, a now rare light mild).<br /><br />I notice from the planning application that one of the arguments being made by the brewery's representatives is that, as it's in a residential area, houses would fit in more with the surrounding buildings than a pub. That's an argument for knocking down every pub that's got houses near it!<br /><br />I fear though that the drinking desert between Cheadle Hulme and Wythenshawe, with few licensed premises that can still be called pubs or sell decent beer, is about to get that bit wider. Anyone who buys a house there won't have a pub of any description within half a mile.<br /><br />Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09310220100267028274noreply@blogger.com