tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post3267166909074974288..comments2024-03-28T17:11:52.333+00:00Comments on The Pub Curmudgeon: Fast track to trouble?Curmudgeonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-16265522677700931912012-01-27T23:06:08.058+00:002012-01-27T23:06:08.058+00:00“Fortunately, there isn't the equivalent of pa...<i>“Fortunately, there isn't the equivalent of passive smoking which eventually did for the smokers”</i><br /><br />Yet.<br /><br /><i> “Validity and relevance are not synonymous”</i>.<br /><br />Yet.<br /><br />Oh, God. I could cry sometimes when I see how deeply so many non-smoking drinkers are burying their heads in the sand. Do I support you (the support of we non-drinking pub-lovers probably being the most valuable support you could ask for when the storm breaks – because the rest of you are just hopeless addicts. Or didn’t you know?), or do I leave you to fight your own battles, just as you left smokers to fight theirs? Still haven’t made my mind up. Yet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-74829419990856374292012-01-27T18:43:52.545+00:002012-01-27T18:43:52.545+00:00CAMRA ale drinkers obsessed with leftist cultism a...CAMRA ale drinkers obsessed with leftist cultism are such pompous boring arses. God hating, arrogant and self-righteous in every respect of the definitions. So much fun watching them make an arse out of themselves in public on a regular basis. Hah - such fun! But, God loves them just the same as it takes all kinds to make the world go round.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-36226932808743952692012-01-27T17:32:49.317+00:002012-01-27T17:32:49.317+00:00Ah Curmudgeon, you've slipped up badly. Validi...Ah Curmudgeon, you've slipped up badly. Validity and relevance are not synonymous.Neville Grundyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10923209266005338452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-21336342217635423622012-01-27T16:36:07.085+00:002012-01-27T16:36:07.085+00:00Absolutely, they have a substantial head start re ...Absolutely, they have a substantial head start re passive drinking. And imagine how they could very easily target those who skip work due to 'wine flu'.prognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-70544528385512377062012-01-27T14:56:11.537+00:002012-01-27T14:56:11.537+00:00The scientific evidence for harmful effects from &...The scientific evidence for harmful effects from "passive smoking" ranges from unconvincing to non-existent.<br /><br />The victims of drunk drivers, street brawlers and wife-beaters might think the evidence for harmful effects from "passive drinking" was rather more solid.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-60097055269327735982012-01-27T14:44:26.602+00:002012-01-27T14:44:26.602+00:00Smoker and PC are correct. It is obvious, blindin...Smoker and PC are correct. It is obvious, blindingly so for anyone who has bothered to research TC tactics. Any real ale lover who can't see that must spend a lot of time asleep (possibly including alcohol-related naps on trains).prognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-10086206734472236772012-01-27T14:42:37.678+00:002012-01-27T14:42:37.678+00:00The question is...having seen what the witchhunt d...The question is...having seen what the witchhunt did for smoking, how do you defend against it now that it has moved on to drinking?<br /><br />The tactics seem to be the same - a constant drip of negative stories that gradually change people's perceptions of drink and drinkers. Fortunately, there isn't the equivalent of passive smoking which eventually did for the smokers, but the general trend is to try and show that drinking DOES affect other people.<br /><br />I don't know how you fight this sort of 'war' as it is not based on fact but on a slow, creeping campaign of negativity.PetesQuizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13620433090438752385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-53410011689936414002012-01-27T14:14:26.191+00:002012-01-27T14:14:26.191+00:00On the contrary, I would say that the suggestion t...On the contrary, I would say that the suggestion that the anti-smoker witchhunt is increasingly metamorphosing into an anti-drinker witchhunt is an entirely valid point.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-79871675989409049322012-01-27T13:48:26.796+00:002012-01-27T13:48:26.796+00:00Smoker: any person who brings his obsession to a b...Smoker: any person who brings his obsession to a blog even though it is completely irrelevant to the post is tedium personified.Neville Grundyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10923209266005338452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-28041539161771920632012-01-27T13:37:56.668+00:002012-01-27T13:37:56.668+00:00Ha ha ha. Ha. You CAMRA bores are next in line for...Ha ha ha. Ha. You CAMRA bores are next in line for persecution and you think silly little things like facts are going to matter.<br /><br />Welcome to 2012; hope you had a nice sleep.Smokernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-2997580061049528442012-01-27T10:12:27.274+00:002012-01-27T10:12:27.274+00:00Yes, a tenuous link to real ale at best. The times...Yes, a tenuous link to real ale at best. The times I have been on that line, any rowdiness was confined to the usual suspects and the real ale swiggers were all asleep!Sat In A Pubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08123038980796000837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-7306987398477508902012-01-27T09:51:43.142+00:002012-01-27T09:51:43.142+00:00I agree, on the couple of times I have done it the...I agree, on the couple of times I have done it the behavior in the pubs was impecable. The only roudyness I saw on the trains was by a group of footy fans travelling to a match. And that happens everywhere.ertghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06145567480085243048noreply@blogger.com