tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post3428800486269429215..comments2024-03-29T08:01:51.705+00:00Comments on The Pub Curmudgeon: Some of my best friends are working classCurmudgeonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comBlogger92125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-48209954170164772532018-02-21T19:26:39.595+00:002018-02-21T19:26:39.595+00:00Go on then, Al. We'll let you in the working c...Go on then, Al. We'll let you in the working class club. You're in. You're only allowed to bring Mudge in as a visitor and guest so long as accompanied. He ain't joining.Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-10798528039453005182018-02-21T14:31:38.099+00:002018-02-21T14:31:38.099+00:00If he chooses to sound off about me in the comment...If he chooses to sound off about me in the comments on other blogs it just serves to underline my point. Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-53238870569626155472018-02-21T14:06:35.882+00:002018-02-21T14:06:35.882+00:00There's some sneering at you going on in the c...There's some sneering at you going on in the comments section of Paul Bailey's blog.Syd Differentialnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-14109360717203381672018-02-21T14:05:40.539+00:002018-02-21T14:05:40.539+00:00Alan,
I've been off work from my unskilled job...Alan,<br />I've been off work from my unskilled job for ten months so have been on half pay for four months but that doesn't make me feel any more working class.<br />I thought half pay meant half pints but that was a daft idea as we all drink two halves faster than we drink a proper whole pint.The other Mudgie !noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-35881380462290263872018-02-20T22:07:06.933+00:002018-02-20T22:07:06.933+00:00When did Corbyn admit to being a Marxist?When did Corbyn admit to being a Marxist?dcbwhaleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02585310584555592882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-88626981202280290542018-02-20T19:28:16.556+00:002018-02-20T19:28:16.556+00:00If you won the lottery tomorrow, would you then co...If you won the lottery tomorrow, would you then consider yourself to be middle class?<br />(genuine question)Kieran Lyonshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10309306469722070363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-59256293360780315092018-02-20T19:12:20.487+00:002018-02-20T19:12:20.487+00:00Yes they do, of course, and it's wrong.Yes they do, of course, and it's wrong. Kieran Lyonshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10309306469722070363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-5413904315854187662018-02-20T18:01:26.245+00:002018-02-20T18:01:26.245+00:00It must be great to say i want to go to work,but d...It must be great to say i want to go to work,but do not need to.<br />I can not go to work due to ill health but need to to get money,been refused PIP payment while layed up in hospital for seven weeks,but we did get a McMillon grant which payed for my wifes bus fares to hospital.<br />We have lived week to week years ago and now month to month,with my income now halfed and no chance of going back to work for at least six months while i go through treatment.<br />This is what it is like to be proper working class when things go wrong through no fault of your own.<br />Not very good is it.Alan Winfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13143831341388857795noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-85897057954449506662018-02-20T12:21:20.236+00:002018-02-20T12:21:20.236+00:00Being a closet Brexiteer is about his only redeemi...Being a closet Brexiteer is about his only redeeming feature.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-37160209859957541342018-02-20T12:18:13.037+00:002018-02-20T12:18:13.037+00:00Of course nobody on the Left ever engages in lazy ...Of course nobody on the Left ever engages in lazy stereotyping of <i>Daily Mail</i> readers, do they?Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-86063629881520668102018-02-20T11:37:36.536+00:002018-02-20T11:37:36.536+00:00A type of self-awareness we cannot expect from Tru...A type of self-awareness we cannot expect from Trump. Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04039590363732278703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-88785690278212695852018-02-20T11:03:05.801+00:002018-02-20T11:03:05.801+00:00I said I've had it with Labour, meaning he'...I said I've had it with Labour, meaning he's been crap on europe, for me... consistently crap.Kieran Lyonshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10309306469722070363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-40364873711588160482018-02-20T11:01:32.489+00:002018-02-20T11:01:32.489+00:00Just the Leicester Mercury pal (good sports covera...Just the Leicester Mercury pal (good sports coverage, of the best team of all time).<br />Doesn't reading so widely make you less inclined to stereotype readers of any one of those? Especially the lazy Guardian bashing, come on man.Kieran Lyonshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10309306469722070363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-42716162423799765342018-02-19T20:52:52.672+00:002018-02-19T20:52:52.672+00:00Cookie, I'm agreeing with you too much. Not to...Cookie, I'm agreeing with you too much. Not totally, obviously, but too much for comfort. You'll have to stop, can you get back to gentle trolling?<br /><br />Oh, and FWIW, my favourite local brewery (in an industrial unit!) is very definitely the working-class run type, not a Rupert one.stymasterhttp://www.piglet-net.net/pigblog/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-63134309809859756232018-02-19T20:20:37.328+00:002018-02-19T20:20:37.328+00:00Jezza is consistent on Europe.
The trouble is most...Jezza is consistent on Europe.<br />The trouble is most of the bedwetters who've joined in the last two years are too thick to understand this.<br />That's down to Tony Blair encouraging people to go to university ( mostly glorified polytechnics ) when really they should be being taught how to handle a spanner or push a brush around.Syd Differentialnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-90771355281168493362018-02-19T20:17:20.130+00:002018-02-19T20:17:20.130+00:00Times,Guardian(good sports coverage),Sydney Mornin...Times,Guardian(good sports coverage),Sydney Morning Herald,New York Times,LA Times,New Statesman,Spectator and Evening Standard.<br />Yourself?Syd Differentialnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-63950570126067624082018-02-19T20:09:14.307+00:002018-02-19T20:09:14.307+00:00Heh. I've had it with Labour. Mostly because K...Heh. I've had it with Labour. Mostly because Keith Vaz is still an MP. When Corbyn first came along I thought he was sound, but I don't like Momentum, and he seems to have the western guilt thing going on, and he's crap on europe.Kieran Lyonshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10309306469722070363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-35454897697430061772018-02-19T19:52:23.075+00:002018-02-19T19:52:23.075+00:00Alright Syd me old son, what newspaper do you read...Alright Syd me old son, what newspaper do you read then?Kieran Lyonshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10309306469722070363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-70881810864286934282018-02-19T19:42:39.883+00:002018-02-19T19:42:39.883+00:00Fair enough. I get what you're saying. And let...Fair enough. I get what you're saying. And lets not forget we are all rich compared to some poor buggers.<br />Kieran Lyonshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10309306469722070363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-44755363932733424032018-02-19T19:22:17.243+00:002018-02-19T19:22:17.243+00:00Everything's relative.
The Sandalista Twitchfo...Everything's relative.<br />The Sandalista Twitchforks demand justice and resignations when Damian Green has legal porn on his computer and briefly touches the knee of a woman.<br />But unite in sympathy and support for the " journey " that serial sex pest Brendan Cox is going on after being kicked out of one charity and resigning from the two set up in memory of his dead MP wife for grabbing a woman by the throat and demanding sex.<br />I'm sure he was probably pissed on craft beer at the time.Syd Differentialnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-25051093018298721582018-02-19T19:07:11.347+00:002018-02-19T19:07:11.347+00:00Except that Corbyn admits to being a Marxist.Except that Corbyn admits to being a Marxist.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-48722467753979651602018-02-19T18:27:14.833+00:002018-02-19T18:27:14.833+00:00I suppose that the left calling Trump a fascist is...I suppose that the left calling Trump a fascist is about as accurate as the right wing press calling Corbyn a Marxist.dcbwhaleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02585310584555592882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-84469269522634596662018-02-19T18:02:43.026+00:002018-02-19T18:02:43.026+00:00Now Now. Beer people are good people.Now Now. Beer people are good people.Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-58743225636622293642018-02-19T18:02:12.274+00:002018-02-19T18:02:12.274+00:00Not sure I would disagree. I was tempted to interj...Not sure I would disagree. I was tempted to interject with Stymaster & Matts definitions, but it was more interesting to just read what they said. I did think a notable difference has to be whether work is a necessity or choice. That work itself, hard or otherwise, does not make you working class.<br /><br />I think brewing might benefit from the distinctions used in farming between Gentleman farmers and Commercial farmers. I’d be more inclined to accept the working-class status of a brewery owner if they had invested their own self-made life savings and commercial success mattered. Less inclined to accept Rupert whose Dad has bought him a brewery to play at craft brewer whilst hoping he does something more productive with his life. Or Tarquin pissing away his inheritance.<br /><br />If I was to be self-serving I would ask to form a definition that did not exclude me from being working class. Something along the lines of qualifying to play football for Ireland. You can play for Ireland if you’re Irish or your parents or grandparents were Irish. So I and others could still qualify to play for our chosen team on the basis of our parents. That would suit me.<br /><br />You might also ask why anyone would wish to identify as working class, like why English people want to pretend they are Irish. I would say, look at the state of the sanctimonious middle-class liberals who claim to want a class free world whilst also fixing the game in their own favour. I’m any tribe that’s not that lot. Give me a white van and a pint of Stella any day of the week.<br /><br />If we should design the world to make people happy then somebody should be able to enjoy success and prosperity and still be able to call themselves working class if they choose to do so. Except it’s an exclusive club and we don’t let just anyone in.<br />Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-49185065429726278272018-02-19T15:38:28.895+00:002018-02-19T15:38:28.895+00:00Some more light shone on the subject of identity p...Some more light shone on the subject of identity politics:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/labour-needs-to-drop-identity-politics/21129#.WorvE-fLiUl" rel="nofollow">Labour needs to drop identity politics</a><br /><br />Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.com