tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post353729357804456132..comments2024-03-29T08:01:51.705+00:00Comments on The Pub Curmudgeon: The old man and the pubCurmudgeonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-28723246787527269702016-02-04T05:27:19.445+00:002016-02-04T05:27:19.445+00:00I well recall the fashion of young people's pu...I well recall the fashion of young people's pubs. The problem is that youthful generations don't last very long: an 18 year old going to his favourite bars may well be settled down with a child or two by the age of 25, and his younger siblings may well turn their noses up at what he liked. A pub I know in Southport was extensively refurbished six times in about 15 years trying to retain its appeal to successive generations of young people; I stopped counting the refurbishments in the late 1980s.<br /><br />Another old street corner pub in Southport with a respectable number of customers was renamed Mr Q's, the real ale was removed, the shelves filled with bottled lagers and alcopops, interior walls were ripped out and loads of pool tables were installed - hence the name. It was full for about 18 months and was then abandoned for somewhere else. They have gone back to the old name and have been trying to convert it back to something like what it was, but with little success.<br /><br />You don't have these kinds of problems with so-called old men's pubs.Neville Grundyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10923209266005338452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-65539101694957960542016-02-04T01:57:29.228+00:002016-02-04T01:57:29.228+00:00I used a pub on a Friday evening between work and ...I used a pub on a Friday evening between work and going home purely for the fact that it was near the take-away that I wanted to visit: the atmosphere was great. The point is that all generations were present; the younger ones tended to congregate at one end, near the pool tables, but there was no friction. That there were local people that knew them probably restrained any excesses in the younger ones even if that was entirely unnecessary. There was a bit of drug abuse by some and the younger people were barred as a result: I am sure that this did not end drug abuse but it did put those young people outside of the unofficial scrutiny that was beneficial. Well, obviously, the pub lost that trade, and trade in general declined, but I just found it had become a less interesting place to go to and eventually it shut.KJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07339137349962768014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-40890839457990021552016-02-04T00:01:06.143+00:002016-02-04T00:01:06.143+00:00Have to say in my formative drinking years we neve...Have to say in my formative drinking years we never identified "old man pubs" as such - it was more a class distinction of smart, ordinary, down-to-earth and rough.<br /><br />The idea of the dedicated "young people's pub" didn't really take off until the 80s. Before then it was often a case of finding the pub with the most myopic landlord where you stood the best chance of being served when well under 18.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-88349612997986067402016-02-03T21:42:27.812+00:002016-02-03T21:42:27.812+00:00I guess in Stockport the Boar's Head is old ma...I guess in Stockport the Boar's Head is old man, Bakers isn't, though both are fairly traditional by central Manchester standards in layout and beer. Magnet might be harder to classify.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-30919198069951561872016-02-03T21:33:59.341+00:002016-02-03T21:33:59.341+00:00As a "young person" I often use the term...As a "young person" I often use the term old man pub to distinguish between say 8 well kept ales in mostly conservative styles from 15 kegs of flavour challenging beers. Both have a clear place it's just quite a neat way to distinguish between the 2Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01745676077091610386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-35995287340673019272016-02-03T20:51:53.919+00:002016-02-03T20:51:53.919+00:00This whole making places more appealing to younger...This whole making places more appealing to younger people thing really pisses me off at times, perhaps more so since I turned 40 last year. <br /><br />If old man pubs seek to attract a younger crowd where will the old men, and proto-old men like myself, drink in peace and quiet?Alistair Reecehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15929927359428659775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-89126831216772619452016-02-03T18:35:24.974+00:002016-02-03T18:35:24.974+00:00Yes, where I were a lad we called them "old m...Yes, where I were a lad we called them "old man and a dog" pubs so it's nothing new to me either. Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13844169940650659196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-83991678102490609792016-02-03T17:02:27.640+00:002016-02-03T17:02:27.640+00:00Crikey, the type of dumps you like have always bee...Crikey, the type of dumps you like have always been called old man pubs, or dumpy pubs. At least for the last 20 years.Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.com