tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post3925975068889120716..comments2024-03-25T18:49:00.608+00:00Comments on The Pub Curmudgeon: Killing the thing you loveCurmudgeonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-3217001241376538262012-02-02T20:38:25.398+00:002012-02-02T20:38:25.398+00:00CAMRA really got going in St Albans, and is still ...CAMRA really got going in St Albans, and is still based here. Most of the people who started the organisation were members of the Socialist Workers' Party. Need I say more?andy5759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-5414689831535949962012-01-28T14:12:52.285+00:002012-01-28T14:12:52.285+00:00There is a similar campaign being run here in Irel...There is a similar campaign being run here in Ireland by the Health Minister Rósín Shorten. Here as elsewhere, younsters drink too much and the blame is on so called cheap booze. The remedy, increase the price of booze and penalise everyone. Will the kids stop drinking, I doubt it. Will pubs suffer as the less young drinker stays at home, undoubtedly. <br /><br />Childhood obesity is/was the new devil. Why not a minimum price on junk food?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-50695229253113752692012-01-27T14:49:53.595+00:002012-01-27T14:49:53.595+00:00In the February issue of What's Brewing, there...In the February issue of <i>What's Brewing</i>, there's an article by Rhys Jones, who is someone I've known for twenty-five years and who, while I don't always agree with him, is someone whose opinions I always respect.<br /><br />He says: <i>"There's a saying that, given time, all organisations end up as if they were run by a conspiracy of their foes."</i><br /><br />That certainly seems to apply to CAMRA in respect of its pathetic appeasement of the anti-drink lobby.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-64099433498982551232012-01-26T21:28:22.426+00:002012-01-26T21:28:22.426+00:00Hi there PC.....,
you've seen this appeal for ...Hi there PC.....,<br />you've seen this appeal for Chris Carter in Ireland who is due to hand himself into the police for imprisonment on Saturday morning? we've reached £767.30p but need another monkey (£500) asap. All details are over at http://smokersjustice.co.uk/ all assistance very much appreciated. Any chance of posting for us please kiddo?<br /><br />Phil Jhandymanphilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01366547228505237107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-91162876958882453772012-01-26T17:48:58.129+00:002012-01-26T17:48:58.129+00:00CAMRA is a well meaning organisation with decent p...CAMRA is a well meaning organisation with decent people that wish to promote a beery tradition that doubtless would disappear if it were not campaigned for.<br /><br />They do appear a bunch of lefties, though, with little idea of unintended consequence.<br /><br />The point about a minimum price accelerator is true (it exists for all other sin taxes)<br /><br />You'd think the tax alterations for 7.5% grog would have some beards waking up a bit. A tax cut in 2.8% pisswater that no one wants is nothing to be excited about.Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-37398042314285039602012-01-26T15:43:02.279+00:002012-01-26T15:43:02.279+00:00If you ask me, it was all over after the 1552 Lice...If you ask me, it was all over after the 1552 Licensing act.StringersBeerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12573068197944669997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-49764922231242629762012-01-26T14:52:52.875+00:002012-01-26T14:52:52.875+00:00As a CAMRA member, I disagree strongly with the ca...As a CAMRA member, I disagree strongly with the campaign's support for a minimum price. As I've said on my own blog, once the principle is established, the level at which it is fixed is just a detail - just a sentence in the Budget, lost among all the other announcements.<br /><br />CAMRA's support is not hard to understand: they want to be seen as a responsible organisation, plus they are calculating that 50p per unit (the most touted rate) won't affect the price in the pub. That is of course correct, until the rate is increased, perhaps on an escalator like beer tax.<br /><br />Once the principle has been conceded - as it has - all that is left is opposing the rate at which it is set. Opposing the rates of beer tax shows how successful such campaigns are.Neville Grundyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10923209266005338452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-73932687060470804192012-01-26T11:33:06.251+00:002012-01-26T11:33:06.251+00:00Thanks for the link - and for correcting the horre...Thanks for the link - and for correcting the horrendous spelling error in the original!Simon Cookehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12586896340482296341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-63751115877495154622012-01-26T08:46:40.838+00:002012-01-26T08:46:40.838+00:00Yes, like many blog posts, it is a bit hyperbolic,...Yes, like many blog posts, it is a bit hyperbolic, but there is a fundamental truth that the leadership of CAMRA are playing a very dangerous game. As I said <a href="http://pubcurmudgeon.blogspot.com/2011/12/moment-of-truth.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>, 'One day, though, something will happen to make them wake up and think “oh shit, this really does mean us!”' By which time it will be too late.<br /><br />I don't detect much enthusiasm for this particular line of argument at the grassroots, though.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-69238279393473781622012-01-26T08:27:36.321+00:002012-01-26T08:27:36.321+00:00Me too, though this exaggerates to make its point....Me too, though this exaggerates to make its point.<br /><br />The thin end of the wedge existsTandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-61300178468642645392012-01-25T23:07:11.781+00:002012-01-25T23:07:11.781+00:00PS. I'd vote against it. It's got bad news...PS. I'd vote against it. It's got bad news written all over it.Rob Nicholsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14871887147718814739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-52246128380749405812012-01-25T23:05:17.993+00:002012-01-25T23:05:17.993+00:00I'd be interested in the results if CAMRA sent...I'd be interested in the results if CAMRA sent one of it's survey to all their email savvy members asking for their opinion on this.Rob Nicholsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14871887147718814739noreply@blogger.com