tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post5524001711247714827..comments2024-03-25T18:49:00.608+00:00Comments on The Pub Curmudgeon: Another countryCurmudgeonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-32825385350474056302014-02-08T08:28:26.364+00:002014-02-08T08:28:26.364+00:00Yes, my point is not that London is bad, but that ...Yes, my point is not that London is <i>bad</i>, but that it is different and increasingly so, as you confirm.<br /><br />I am not a fan of Peter Hitchens, but he makes the same point in <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2550102/PETER-HITCHENS-The-BBC-just-loves-swearing-gets-dose-X-medicine.html" rel="nofollow">this recent column</a>:<br /><br /><i>"In fact, London is now so different from the surrounding country that it has become a separate nation, at least as different from England as Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland."</i><br /><br />I would also guess that there may be quite a difference between the pub and beer scene in the outer boroughs and that in Inner London.<br /><br />Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-78558038455887605212014-02-08T08:19:18.242+00:002014-02-08T08:19:18.242+00:00You are right in many ways Mudgie. I love London ...You are right in many ways Mudgie. I love London but it is changing into a different place to the rest of the UK at a phenomenal pace.<br /><br />You can't put aside the sheer wealth of the place, as it is that which drives everything and beer and pubs are no exception.<br /><br />I have been working on a blog post about beer which touches on the wealth aspect, but whatever its faults, London remains a fascinating place. As an aside and maybe a side swipe about hipsters and murky beer, there is a divide in beer within London too.<br /><br />In beer as in many other things, hipsters have a herd instinct. In beer most would not know yeast bite from a dog bite. It accounts in part for the murky beer thing.<br /><br />Still love it somehow.Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-43666327954792846872014-02-07T23:09:14.723+00:002014-02-07T23:09:14.723+00:00Ive been to some great towns and cities watching M...Ive been to some great towns and cities watching Manchester City and drinking in superb pubs (Newcastle, Leicester, Cardiff) and some absolute dumps (Tottenham, West Ham, Crystal Palace to come). London has wonderful little villages that obscure the drabness of the whole.Martin, Cambridgenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-65487060585185242112014-02-07T21:04:19.679+00:002014-02-07T21:04:19.679+00:00London IS NOT England,it is little more than feste...London IS NOT England,it is little more than festering sore on the dying Realm.<br />A swirling cesspool of international leeches,<br />of well spoken spivs,of universal parasites,of suited gangsters and<br />noisy degenerates. It gushes laws and restrictions giving no heed to consequence for others out in the forgotten regional wilderness.<br />Scotland might be well rid of the seething sewer of London,may be England too. One fine day.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-6904945896242447752014-02-07T20:19:57.777+00:002014-02-07T20:19:57.777+00:00Best ask Tandleman's opinion on this one. I be...Best ask Tandleman's opinion on this one. I believe he has a flat there, and certainly seems to visit London a lot more often than I do, even though it's only a 35 minute train ride from where I live.<br /><br />I know much gentrification has, and still is taking place, but there are still quite a few gritty, down-at-heel parts of the capital. There are also areas I'd avoid like the plague, so I wouldn't say everything is booming in London, and the streets certainly aren't paved with gold! Paul Baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09678639237696546268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-19174867706125165622014-02-07T20:14:21.173+00:002014-02-07T20:14:21.173+00:00Cookie, for once you are spot on. Can I recommend ...Cookie, for once you are spot on. Can I recommend Valencia? Lovely city and Easyjet fly there. They have good lout there too.Billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-23552126371815862832014-02-07T19:28:44.002+00:002014-02-07T19:28:44.002+00:00You can get a flight to most European cities &...You can get a flight to most European cities & cheaper hotels, than travelling from the north to London. London is less relevant to the average Brit than Milan, Munich, Paris, wherever. So they have daft hats and murkey beer? it's a dump. Save a bob & go somewhere nicer.<br /><br />Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-1465207273247059802014-02-07T18:08:57.852+00:002014-02-07T18:08:57.852+00:00"Get off my lawn""Get off my lawn"Grandpa Simpsonnoreply@blogger.com