tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post598643451752266488..comments2024-03-28T16:30:25.456+00:00Comments on The Pub Curmudgeon: Am I bovvered?Curmudgeonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-33912058525277119312016-11-30T07:34:22.297+00:002016-11-30T07:34:22.297+00:00The bread analogy only goes so far. It is a foodst...The bread analogy only goes so far. It is a foodstuff, not a recreational product, and doesn't have anything like the same cultural significance.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-14518339557826626532016-11-29T20:16:38.601+00:002016-11-29T20:16:38.601+00:00Back in the day, everyone ate artisan bread (not s...Back in the day, everyone ate artisan bread (not sure about sourdough) because it was what you got, from the local baker. Then some inhabitant of Hades came up with the Chorleywood process and we got Sunblest and Mother's Pride and other abominations. These things are still cheaper and this, presumably, is why people still buy them, unless they've got so used to them they don't know or want to know the difference. Proper bread is still available at a reasonable price from the few proper bakers who remain. Not many of them on council estates though. <br />Sorry if this is a bit off topic but there are parallels between proper bread and proper beer.Billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-43093081498454248352016-11-28T21:56:37.569+00:002016-11-28T21:56:37.569+00:00Alan, it is obvious that you do not take your real...Alan, it is obvious that you do not take your real ales and pubs for granted.Richard (Dick) Southworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01930343783811814684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-86778436158869977962016-11-28T12:22:06.403+00:002016-11-28T12:22:06.403+00:00And an important point is that price has little or...And an important point is that price has little or nothing to do with it.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-28038730029092239882016-11-28T11:50:48.189+00:002016-11-28T11:50:48.189+00:00Exactly my point - just as they turned their back...Exactly my point - just as they turned their backs on artisan bitter and mild and decided it's a beer for ponces. With beards. electricpicshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09144970068645280352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-43129826574069309072016-11-28T07:49:02.828+00:002016-11-28T07:49:02.828+00:00For sure. The current market trends indicate that ...For sure. The current market trends indicate that rather than replace the £2 silky lovely smooth with some other tasteless pish like "Wizard" albeit an approved pish, they would be better off moving away from the 10am mobility scooter market and instead flogging thirds of 12% Imperial Barrel Aged Triple Black I.P.A for £12. That's where the kids are at and that's where the quid is.<br /><br />A successful relevant beery campaign would abandon tasteless muck like sub 4% bitter and go balls deep for craft.Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-898670331328379512016-11-28T07:48:05.776+00:002016-11-28T07:48:05.776+00:00But the point is that the working classes once ate...But the point is that the working classes once ate artisan sourdough, but have for whatever reason turned their backs on it and decided it's a bread for ponces.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-41003791526422234082016-11-27T21:12:00.114+00:002016-11-27T21:12:00.114+00:00Other markets experience similar trends: as an exa...Other markets experience similar trends: as an example, try convincing the punters in the downmarket boozer to eat decent bread instead of the cheapest Chorleywood white. I don't hear anyone complaining that corner Nisa stores don't sell artisan sourdough. ElectricPicsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-39968451173499608642016-11-27T20:12:23.172+00:002016-11-27T20:12:23.172+00:00I get into this kind of pub very occasionally and ...I get into this kind of pub very occasionally and I notice that everyone is drinking lager or cans of Natch. There's usually a handpump on the bar but either it's not working or what comes out of it is swill because nobody's drinking the real ale. Mind you, they're not drinking smooth either. Horses for courses at the end of the day, you can't force people to consume something they don't want to. If "real ale deserts" exist it's down to market forces<br />Billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-82360046312772704862016-11-27T15:08:35.723+00:002016-11-27T15:08:35.723+00:00We are blessed to live in a country that does dece...We are blessed to live in a country that does decent real ales,i can see a pub from my house that has three real ales on and a five minute walk will get me to a Wetherspoons and another pub that has 12 real ales on of differing styles and this is in a pretty run down town within the Nottingham conurbation.Alan Winfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13143831341388857795noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-47237704900804108072016-11-27T13:50:20.405+00:002016-11-27T13:50:20.405+00:00Yes, to each his/her own is the name of the game. ...Yes, to each his/her own is the name of the game. Preferring a cascade of flavors, I travel 4000 miles to seek those pongy bitters in those wonderful tatty pubs. When standing at the bar, I do not feel that all the non bitters/non cask are being imposed on me. I like the choice and choose not to go with what I do not want. I wish more cask ales would be "imposed" on me here in the states. Most servers at bars have never heard of cask. Oh, to be able to walk down the street to a pub with cask would be a dream come true. Richard (Dick) Southworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01930343783811814684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-10199586324509251322016-11-27T13:47:02.635+00:002016-11-27T13:47:02.635+00:00Its just nice to see pubs still open, I drink cask...Its just nice to see pubs still open, I drink cask or keg depends on what's on, you can get some treats on keg like Greenall's Mild brewed under license still to be seen in Ball O' Ditton, Widnes, Lancs and until a couple of years ago when the Punch and Judy behind Lime Street, Liverpool, Lancs got burned down for student flats they sold Toby Light which was a nice drop.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13262105577114781903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-42151038046948161292016-11-27T12:32:40.473+00:002016-11-27T12:32:40.473+00:00It is desperately sad so few care about what bitte...It is desperately sad so few care about what bitter is flogged in tatty pubs they don't want to in. Imposing your pongy bitter on those that don't want it and prefer a silkier smooth drink is what it's all about !Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.com