tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post8613280570018300595..comments2024-03-29T08:01:51.705+00:00Comments on The Pub Curmudgeon: The bubble bursts?Curmudgeonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-9407508671410542112019-02-08T15:24:29.698+00:002019-02-08T15:24:29.698+00:00Who brews "Increasingly Real Ale"?Who brews "Increasingly Real Ale"?dcbwhaleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02585310584555592882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-31744250605551906942019-02-07T20:28:51.640+00:002019-02-07T20:28:51.640+00:00Increasingly Real Ale seems more of an oxymoron to...Increasingly Real Ale seems more of an oxymoron to me.cheersjockohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14787146538153090773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-4419085205859499702019-02-07T14:23:49.214+00:002019-02-07T14:23:49.214+00:00As far as Carlsberg are concerned, craft beer is s...As far as Carlsberg are concerned, craft beer is still fueling growth in their business. Although the report does say this is growth of craft across Europe rather than growth in the UK.<br /><br />https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-6675853/Fashion-craft-beers-helps-fizz-Carlsberg.htmlIlkley Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12812726385752243112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-79332967812462194182019-02-07T14:12:10.526+00:002019-02-07T14:12:10.526+00:00They'll always be wankers. Sometimes a lot of ...They'll always be wankers. Sometimes a lot of them. Sometimes a few. Look at CAMRA. That membership goes up and down but there's enough wankers to keep it going. Same with craft beer. None of them want it to be mainstream anyway. The exclusivity is the appeal. They enjoy it more if it's a small circle jerk.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-26580314626198071522019-02-07T14:07:31.639+00:002019-02-07T14:07:31.639+00:00No, it's not even all over yet for crypto.No, it's not even all over yet for crypto.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-80813567609999325482019-02-07T12:11:41.067+00:002019-02-07T12:11:41.067+00:00Surely it is not a bubble unless sales decrease ra...Surely it is not a bubble unless sales decrease rapidly. The UK has almost certainly reached saturation point, but a lack of growth does not mean a burst bubble.Beermunsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09564489130909572144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-1643444313375606882019-02-07T12:10:32.556+00:002019-02-07T12:10:32.556+00:00There is certainly a market for poor beer. I don&#...There is certainly a market for poor beer. I don't know if it is sold due to a lower price, or because certain establishments will buy anything new, but I have been served some utterly dreadful beer, mostly I have to say from new breweries.Beermunsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09564489130909572144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-73452389970313520012019-02-07T11:20:26.558+00:002019-02-07T11:20:26.558+00:00Good keg.. An oxymoron amongst real ale drinkers....Good keg.. An oxymoron amongst real ale drinkers.dcbwhaleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02585310584555592882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-68555997143758307962019-02-07T10:21:28.763+00:002019-02-07T10:21:28.763+00:00You love it.You love it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-73927256732764007822019-02-07T09:16:23.250+00:002019-02-07T09:16:23.250+00:00Craft beer:
Brewed by wankers
Sold in wanker bars
...Craft beer:<br />Brewed by wankers<br />Sold in wanker bars<br />Drunk by wankers<br />Tastes like wankAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-59730609021049256012019-02-07T09:00:25.122+00:002019-02-07T09:00:25.122+00:00What, like subscription football TV, you mean?What, like subscription football TV, you mean?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-84705384392450952702019-02-07T08:54:32.323+00:002019-02-07T08:54:32.323+00:00Craft will never die so long as there are thick sn...Craft will never die so long as there are thick snobs willing to pay over the odds to gain a sense of superiority over the general population.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-47331748158636139472019-02-07T08:30:17.805+00:002019-02-07T08:30:17.805+00:00Yes, roll on Scotlond.Yes, roll on Scotlond.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-25909943524375137212019-02-07T08:09:13.423+00:002019-02-07T08:09:13.423+00:00In contrast, as I wrote here, "It’s sometimes...In contrast, <a href="http://pubcurmudgeon.blogspot.com/2014/02/another-country.html" rel="nofollow">as I wrote here</a>, <i>"It’s sometimes said that, where London leads, the rest of the country eventually follows but, in wider terms spreading well beyond the world of beer, I get the feeling that the two are increasingly heading in different directions."</i> Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-42028260001006622222019-02-07T07:10:56.554+00:002019-02-07T07:10:56.554+00:00Craft Beer is growing in popularity in cities such...Craft Beer is growing in popularity in cities such as Cardiff,Manchester,Bristol and,yes,even in MiddlesboroughJohn Lambnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-57765085355132935822019-02-06T23:01:49.078+00:002019-02-06T23:01:49.078+00:00But millions of people are dismissing the Capital....But millions of people are dismissing the Capital. Like, Middlesbrough, say, would be just fine without it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-44942397796749564302019-02-06T22:46:06.758+00:002019-02-06T22:46:06.758+00:00Didn't someone say, "Where London leads, ...Didn't someone say, "Where London leads, the rest of the country follows"?<br /><br />You cannot dismiss the capital, just because it doesn't fit in with world view. Craft may well have peaked, but I wouldn't go writing it off yet.Paul Baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09678639237696546268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-85723579659305483002019-02-06T22:03:19.385+00:002019-02-06T22:03:19.385+00:00I've seen the argument that even some relaxati...I've seen the argument that even some relaxation of the duty taper would represent unfair competition.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-85633924816664119782019-02-06T22:02:25.403+00:002019-02-06T22:02:25.403+00:00"Here in London." Nuff said..."Here in London." Nuff said...Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-18670955643176837182019-02-06T20:56:17.103+00:002019-02-06T20:56:17.103+00:00The craft beer bubble is nowhere near burst its on...The craft beer bubble is nowhere near burst its on the way up.Here in London its easier to get good keg than good cask.A lot of the pubs with loads of cask pumps seem to have no beer on some of them but the keg fonts are always stocked.If you brew poor beer it wont sell and the pubs will not buy anymore beer from you.The trend in London is for new bars /bottleshops and taprooms to be keg only which indicates which way the wind is blowing on craft versus cask. cheersjockohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14787146538153090773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-36733211367102440422019-02-06T20:20:55.927+00:002019-02-06T20:20:55.927+00:00And imagine the carnage if duty was brought into l...And imagine the carnage if duty was brought into line with the likes of Adnams and Robinsons.TheWickingMannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-72684758846874416912019-02-06T17:07:52.096+00:002019-02-06T17:07:52.096+00:00Whatever. It came, it went, nobody missed it when ...Whatever. It came, it went, nobody missed it when it went.Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-55693035223494633912019-02-06T17:02:25.018+00:002019-02-06T17:02:25.018+00:00My experience has been that the poorer quality bee...My experience has been that the poorer quality beer on the market from start ups has been cask conditioned perhaps because a lower investment is needed in plant and equipment. Keg producers appear on the whole to be better capitalised and are capable of producing a more consistent product.John Lambnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-63989271896616943402019-02-06T16:43:03.304+00:002019-02-06T16:43:03.304+00:00Craft was destined to be a burst bubble from the m...Craft was destined to be a burst bubble from the moment it became a trend, supported by a 'movement', rather than the niche it had been, and where it will settle back down into, albeit bigger. <br /><br />"...This view is shared by Mr Forsyth, who says that the quality of new craft beer is often not of a high standard." Indeed, often caused by the smaller brewers not having access to quality ingredients - mostly malt - at sensible prices, so they use substandard malt with higher nitrogen content that will cause problems during the brew and produces murky beer that'll never clear without robust filtering, and call it naturally cloudy or unfined, with the poor taste masked by overhopping and weird added ingredients. That's not to say there isn't any decent murk or differently-flavoured beer out there, but the quality stuff isn't as common as people would think.electricpicshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09144970068645280352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-40304068721973306812019-02-06T14:15:10.187+00:002019-02-06T14:15:10.187+00:00It was always going to burst at some point. Who sh...It was always going to burst at some point. Who should get the bulk of our sympathy, I ponder?<br />The investors in microbreweries? The craft artisans who gave up their city careers? Drinkers that built a personality and identity around liking a particular type of drink?<br />It's the beer writers and bloggers I most shed tears for. They are the people in my thoughts. I hope they see the future and move quickly into articles about artisan quinoa porridge.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com