Friday, 15 August 2025

Limiting the pub

Scarcely a week goes by without the present government announcing a policy to antagonise yet another group in society. They have now put forward a set of proposals to improve road safety that include the reduction of the drink-driving limit from 35 μg to 22 μg, the equivalent of 80 mg to 50 mg in “old money”. This had originally been proposed by the Blair government elected in 1997, but for whatever reason was never proceeded with.

The reason put forward for this is obviously to improve safety. And, as Christopher Snowdon writes, we have an example from a neighbouring jurisdiction of exactly what difference it is likely to make.

Fortunately, this is a question that can be answered with empirical evidence. In 2014, Scotland lowered the limit to 50mg of alcohol. What happened next has been evaluated in three peer-reviewed studies, one written by public health academics and two written by economists. They all found that lowering the limit had no impact on the number of road accidents, casualties or fatalities in Scotland. The most rigorous of these studies, published in the Journal of Health Economics, concluded that the lower limit “had no effect on road traffic accidents, even in circumstances that are more likely to be associated with greater alcohol consumption (such as weekends, multiple vehicle crashes, urban areas, and local authorities with a large concentration of premises) or among individuals who may experience heavier drinking (such as young adults and men).”
Whatever the safety implications, such a policy would inevitably have a significant effect on the pub trade. While those who inhabit an urban bubble may be reluctant to acknowledge it, nationwide there are a very large number of pubs to which a majority of customers travel by car. There will be several thousand where that accounts for over 90% of their trade.

Every week, hundreds of thousands of people drive to pubs and consume alcohol within the legal limit. Yes. a few customers do break the law, as people still will with a lower limit. But, given the severe potential consequences, the vast majority of drivers abide by it, and indeed generally leave a wide margin below it. So, with a lower limit, the overwhelming majority will modify their behaviour, by drinking less or nothing, or simply not visiting at all. Even those who continue to visit may do so less often. So the overall effect on trade will only point in one direction.

Many pub visits, especially to those in out-of-down locations, are combined with another objective, such as a shopping trip, visiting a tourist attraction, attending a sports fixture or seeing a film or play. If people find it convenient to travel by car for these purposes, then it is likely to be the call into the pub that gets the chop.

Urban areas would not be immune either. Within any urban area outside of large town and city centres, the range of pubs that can be conveniently reached by public transport is much less than those that can be accessed by car. People will be making multi-purpose journeys for the same reasons listed above. It is a matter of observable fact that many people visit pubs by car in urban areas.

Outside London, over 70% of workers commute by car. Lowering the limit will also reduce the amount someone can drink in the evening without running the risk of falling foul of the law the following morning, and so may well act as a dampener on drinking “on a school night” even in pubs nobody actually drives to.

Descriptions in the Good Beer Guide often refer piously to pubs being “popular with walkers and cyclists”. But there will be relatively few pubs where that trade is more than the icing on the cake, or extends beyond a few sunny summer weekends. To imagine that walkers and cyclists can sustain rural pubs is wishful thinking. Plus many of those walkers and cyclists will actually have travelled by car to reach rural areas. There is one rural pub listed in the current Guide in a remote location in rural Staffordshire miles away from any public transport. Yet it does not open before 7 pm on any day of the week. Somehow I can’t see it attracting many walkers and cyclists on a rainy Tuesday night in November.

No doubt the same useful idiots who claimed that the smoking ban would leave pubs largely unscathed will say the same about the cutting the drink-drive limit. And they will be equally wrong. But there is a parallel with the smoking ban in that the effect is likely to be insidious and drawn-out rather than immediate.

Both policies acted to accelerate an existing trend. Smoking rates were already in steep decline, and it is noticeable that younger age groups are markedly less willing to drive to pubs and drink within the legal limit than over-50s. This doesn’t mean they find another way of getting there, it means that they just don’t go, and this has been a largely unheralded contributor to the decline of pubs over the past couple of decades,

The situation of every pub will vary depending on its combination of the proportion of car-borne trade and wet sales. Without naming names, there are some pubs that it is very hard to imagine will still be viable after a limit cut. But most will think “well, it’s not good, but it doesn’t put us out of business overnight.” They will try various initiatives such as upping their food offer, putting on special events and appealing more to locals. But, with the overall level of trade being down, inevitably the weaker and less attractive pubs will start going to the wall more quickly than they would have done otherwise. However, it will be a process drawn out over several years rather than happening within a matter of months.

Going into food isn’t going to be a panacea either. There’s plenty of evidence that the pub food market is pretty saturated, so attempts by previously wet-dominated pubs to expand into food may not meet with success. In recent years, several high-profile dining pubs have closed, one of the latest being the prominent Waggon & Horses at Handforth just south of the Stockport boundary, which is reportedly due to close in the coming months. Existing destination dining pubs, while they may be protected to some extent from the impact, may still experience some reduction in trade as people feel less inclined to drive out to them for a meal.

This policy is put forward as a means of improving safety. But the case for that must be made, rather than being accepted as a given. And it is delusional to imagine that it would not have a significant negative effect on the pub trade. Indeed, while it may not be the explicit intention, rather like the smoking ban it is hard to avoid the conclusion that its impact in practice would be much more to undermine pubs than improve health and safety.

14 comments:

  1. This is yet another attempt by an unrepresentative and highly privileged minority to attack the freedoms and economic livelihoods of the British people on the basis of spurious 'health and safety' grounds. Our remedy lies in the ballot box,vote whenever you can and don't let them stop you. If a political party's name begins with L anywhere in the UK or S in Scotland or Northern Ireland or P in Wales don't vote for it

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  2. I live on the edge of the Yorkshire Dales National Park in Wharfedale. Tiny communities in Wharfedale such as Kettlewell and Startbotton with a population of 321 support 4 pubs. Appletreewick with a population of 218 supports two pubs. None of these would exist without motorists visiting them. I would say that most if not all of these businesses are doomed by the proposed changes to drink driving laws. To what end, more social isolation in rural communities and more unregulated drinking at home.
    This is metropolitan ideology dressed up as health and safety. Its a vicious attack on rural communities.

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    1. Good advert for Kettlebotton is that, cheers

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  3. I'm getting on a bit and my clutch control is not what it was, couple that with the fact that South African police taught me a useful drunk driving lesson in Hillbrow Johannesburg in 1987, teargassed me and took the car keys and left me on the curb. Try sorting that out 2am in the morning.

    One sip and I don't drive.

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  4. Two local pubs (Surrey) have just closed. Sadly the best 2 pubs around as well, great staff and lovely beer/food…..this will make it even worse.

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  5. Elons Robo Taxis will save you !
    Car ownership is so 20th century. You will own nothing and be happy

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    1. Yes, but for the reasons discussed you will need a personal self-driving car, not a Robotaxi. And I can't see the government ever allowing people to have those, even if the technology proves viable.

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  6. Isn't this all predicated on there being a visible and active police presence in these out-of-town areas? It's unlikely.

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    1. Given the severe potential penalties, the vast majority of people really do not want to risk falling foul of the law. If they did, the police mounting roadblocks outside pub car parks would be like shooting fish in a barrel, but it isn't.

      In any case, we are talking about people driving out from towns to pubs, not just rural dwellers.

      And what licensee would really be happy knowing his business depended on lawbreakers?

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    2. The filth find real criminals too difficult these days.
      Cars leaving a pub car park are fish in a barrel.
      Easy way of improving the statistics. Fines issued crimes recorded and solved on the same form.

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  7. I live in a vibrant inner city area and travel by bus to the local craft bar where we sip highly-hopped murky IPAs and discuss the vital issues of the day such as the Gaza genocide and the attack on trans rights.

    I couldn’t give a toss about hard-right animal-murdering rural gammon and hope all their pubs get closed down.

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  8. Professor Pie-Tin25 August 2025 at 13:46

    I appear to have had a reverse ferret Cooking Lager weekend.
    While he has been muntering on the internet about how good his Bass ale was I couldn't finish the pint I ordered on Saturday as it was so dreadfully kept and switched to lout instead. Cruzcampo to be precise and on a warm day it was actually rather nice.
    In other news we pick up the keys to our new gaff in Bath tomorrow a mere stagger from the Star Inn and precisely 25 seconds from our front door to a very good local pub. Still not quite as short as the 17 seconds it currently takes me to get to our current local but it'll do. We've become very attached to it in the three years we've been here but like everywhere else it's had a tough summer and while the all female crew who run it are delightful the downside is they're clueless about ale so the four taps will often have very similar styles of beer on ( IPAs and hop bombs )
    Although I like the Star it really has a museum feel about it and while some people like the small rooms we find it often makes it an atmosphere killer. Fortunately they're are some very good, non-touristy pubs within walking distance which is good because parking is an asbolute bugger in Bath.

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