tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post1779548714241786183..comments2024-03-28T17:11:52.333+00:00Comments on The Pub Curmudgeon: Hard cases make bad lawCurmudgeonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-79981467999408306442017-11-08T16:38:37.699+00:002017-11-08T16:38:37.699+00:00I checked today in my local Tesco, and 4x440ml can...I checked today in my local Tesco, and 4x440ml cans of Carlsberg Special were in fact £7.60, or 54p per unit. So much for minimum pricing!Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-59239927900930861922017-11-06T23:06:32.956+00:002017-11-06T23:06:32.956+00:00Just my two cents (being Canadian, otherwise it wo...Just my two cents (being Canadian, otherwise it would be my 2p) if there is a market for it, and it's not illegal, who cares? Why market vehicles that can go faster than the highest speed limit in the country? <br /><br />Besides, if you want to get drunk fast, beer is not exactly the best way to do it. Buy some Everclear or some such:<br /><br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everclear_(alcohol)<br /><br />Or make your own:<br /><br />http://www.instructables.com/id/Homemade-Alcohol/<br /><br />Cheers! :)Russtovichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11493687426847380993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-91671664633874121652017-11-06T22:31:33.078+00:002017-11-06T22:31:33.078+00:00They were marketed as such initially but they were...They were marketed as such initially but they were conceived as a use for industrial alcohol. The spent apples used to go into pig feed. Then someone worked out enzymes could break the remaining starches down further & be fermented out again as a base for distilled industrial alcohol. Alcohols being great for cleaning engine parts. Then someone worked out as it came from apples it was legally cider & fit for human consumption despite not being actual apple juice but pulped apple fibres. As the "cider" was lacking any cider colour or cider or apple flavour it was called "white" cider & at the first attempt sold as a lasses drink. Lasses being not that stupid it found its place as tramp juice.<br /><br />But that's beside the point. This topic does the rounds every so often and I get why you would seek to defend it. The smoking template was a series of small prohibitions & the impending alcohol ban will be too. So you don't want to consed this one. I just think the argument that tramp juice is drank by respectable people a poor one that'll lose. The only defence is a lesser of available evils argument & to put the moral question back to the prohibitionists to ask for a more effective way to help the alkies.<br />Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-16554771729425653682017-11-06T20:42:01.743+00:002017-11-06T20:42:01.743+00:00We've had this discussion before, and, yes, it...We've had this discussion before, and, yes, it is hard to see any redeeming features in white cider. But most alcoholic drinks aren't designed to be sipped by connoisseurs, and where do you draw the line? Is Glen's vodka or Crofters cider really that much better? <br /><br />Don't forget that the first white ciders were conceived as lighter, more subtly flavoured products aimed at women. And there are several premium ciders such as Aspall which are very pale in colour and lacking in tannins, so have some of the characteristics of white cider.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-39657356478046459002017-11-06T18:41:08.200+00:002017-11-06T18:41:08.200+00:00If you accept that the White Frightening doesn'...If you accept that the White Frightening doesn't create alcoholics but ends up the last refuge of people that have been on a long decline of losing everything then what is the difference in morality between a product that is abused by alcoholics and one that creates them ?<br /><br />I don't buy the argument that white cider is drunk by regular people. It's a product for alcoholics.<br /><br />If it's immoral to sell White Lighting to alcoholics then it must by equal measure be immoral to sell a 10% barrel aged imperial stout. I follow plenty of bloggers on twitter. Many appear to cane it every night & moan about hangovers every morning. That must be affecting other parts of their lives. Relationships & career prospects. It's the first act of Days of Wine & Roses. Later acts of then film are not pretty. Not all are going that way but I've got my own guesses as to who will.<br /><br />If it's a moral issue then those wanting white cider removed cannot draw a line and claim other products are not culpable to the social problem. Alcoholics start off as prosperous people drinking the same booze as the rest of us. The decline occurs over many years.<br /><br />As far as I can see white cider is a horrendous product justifiable only as the lesser of possible evils. The other substances alcoholics would use are far worse. If we are removing them, how we going to improve the help we give to alcoholics to keep them off the turps & meths? If this is a moral question then that requires an answer.<br /><br />Most of those that want white frightening removed don't want to help alkies. They just want the problem to disappear from their field of vision. That's easier when the corner shop isn't selling tramp juice.<br /><br />Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-58507051319757432622017-11-06T15:17:04.556+00:002017-11-06T15:17:04.556+00:00The off-trade beer market has become more fragment...The off-trade beer market has become more fragmented, so it's harder to make direct comparisons. As I said above, the serious super lager drinker will be buying them in independent corner shops rather than Tesco. One that I sometimes visit sells 4x500ml cans of premium lagers such as Heineken and San Miguel for £4.49, which at 5% is 45p per unit. 4x500ml cans of Special Brew or Tennents Super are £6, which at 8% is 37.5p per unit.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-48157490641645804132017-11-06T14:55:26.749+00:002017-11-06T14:55:26.749+00:00The last time - indeed, I believe the only time - ...The last time - indeed, I believe the only time - I bought a can of Special Brew it was a quid from the corner shop. 'Normal' cans - e.g. John Smiths, McEwan's Export, Fosters etc. were all 80p I think. Bottled Dragon stout was a bargain at 75p. Big bottle of Nigerian Guinness was the most expensive thing in the shop. May have been £1.30 or something. This brings back memories.<br /><br />Anyway, the point is that I think there is now a greater price differential between 'super strength' and standard strength mainstream off-trade products than there was in the mid-1990s, the last time I was likely to purchase either. <br />Benjamin Nunnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12735110277517005667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-45316875052808095572017-11-06T12:59:43.794+00:002017-11-06T12:59:43.794+00:00There is a bit of a mystique around strong British...There is a bit of a mystique around strong British beers in Italy. There are a couple of bars in Florence that boast of having Charles Wells' Dragoon on tap - it's a 10% barley wine. (I had it, and can confirm that it's pretty poor.) Never seen it in this country in any form.Phil Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05328292577477440272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-79798240409570664512017-11-06T12:55:26.737+00:002017-11-06T12:55:26.737+00:00In my late 20s my routine at gigs used to be to st...In my late 20s my routine at gigs used to be to start with a can of Red Stripe and follow it with a can of Special Brew - I liked the way you could feel yourself getting drunk. (Also, it saved going back to the bar.)Phil Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05328292577477440272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-20858833909064072062017-11-06T12:49:30.842+00:002017-11-06T12:49:30.842+00:00The biggest bang for your buck in the alcohol stak...The biggest bang for your buck in the alcohol stakes is cheap sherry, at least it was when I was a teenager.Beermunsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09564489130909572144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-12026272246321350652017-11-06T12:34:41.360+00:002017-11-06T12:34:41.360+00:00When we went on holiday to Sicily last year, we we...When we went on holiday to Sicily last year, we were highly amused to find a number of bars selling Tennents Super as Scottish craft beer. I think it was priced around 8 Euros a can, alongside the more usual craft fare from the likes of Brewdog, Stone etc.Beermunsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09564489130909572144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-58815396908647473592017-11-06T09:28:56.174+00:002017-11-06T09:28:56.174+00:00Furthermore, health surveys generally underestimat...Furthermore, health surveys generally underestimate alcohol consumption due to the exclusion or poor representation of people who are hard to access....<a href="http://www.addictionrehabcenters.com/drug-addiction/kratom-abuse-addiction/" rel="nofollow">Kratom Addiction</a><br />pamelahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11128134885970566172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-57526403633221288212017-11-06T08:47:25.629+00:002017-11-06T08:47:25.629+00:00One possible effect of removing these products fro...One possible effect of removing these products from the shelves would be to sway their target market onto cheap and often illegal, dangerous spirits which are readily available if you know where to look. Be careful what you wish for? electricpicshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09144970068645280352noreply@blogger.com