tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post2039328555555457154..comments2024-03-28T17:11:52.333+00:00Comments on The Pub Curmudgeon: Welcome to the Scrooge ArmsCurmudgeonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-45012738400524564102016-12-05T15:09:02.809+00:002016-12-05T15:09:02.809+00:00Good point David. When the smoking ban came in, it...Good point David. When the smoking ban came in, it brought home to me why I paid £2 for a coffeee in Caffe Nero. Without a cigarette, I wouldn't sit in there for long if they were offering free coffee. I paid 20p for a coffee and £1.80 for a comfy chair in a warm room with pleasant music and free wifi.Jonathan Bagleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17331501151709216753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-89977605923689373992016-12-05T15:04:02.209+00:002016-12-05T15:04:02.209+00:00The difference has always been even greater in Ger...The difference has always been even greater in Germany, but you pay for the ambience. As you say, you are not buying a drink. I think of it as renting a seat with a drink thrown in. Either a high rent for a seat in the Royal box, or £2 in the stalls.Jonathan Bagleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17331501151709216753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-18322601686161736442016-12-05T08:31:22.940+00:002016-12-05T08:31:22.940+00:00I can think of at least one city centre pubco-owne...I can think of at least one city centre pubco-owned pub which doesn't do food but is always busy with drinkers and turns a decent profit.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09310220100267028274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-11867379466014343472016-12-04T16:44:19.659+00:002016-12-04T16:44:19.659+00:00Good point Panda. Most smokers have voted with the...Good point Panda. Most smokers have voted with their feet and drink and smoke at home. Hence the dire state of the pub trade.Lucretius1https://www.blogger.com/profile/18213610249777895917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-75729325139107986982016-12-04T14:12:24.316+00:002016-12-04T14:12:24.316+00:00What's the point of going to a pub anyway when...What's the point of going to a pub anyway when you have to stand outside in the freezing cold and you get harassed by the fucking rozzers on your way home? The Pandanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-88743547613414662052016-12-04T13:24:20.458+00:002016-12-04T13:24:20.458+00:00Those that obtain an enthusiasm see the world from...Those that obtain an enthusiasm see the world from their own blinkered perspective.<br /><br />I suspect train spotters don't see a transport system but a series of engines they like. Many beer enthusiasts seem to enjoy the beer and don't really get why none beer enthusiasts might not see the presence of beer they approve of as in any way indicative of the pub being an enjoyable environment.<br /><br />It seems to me that if pubs can only exist so long as beer is not available cheaper in Tesco, there's not much that pubs are actually providing to justify existing.Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-90687949677304121492016-12-04T08:21:57.851+00:002016-12-04T08:21:57.851+00:00Surprises me it's taken so long to wake up.Surprises me it's taken so long to wake up.James Highamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-44365451752406179882016-12-03T20:22:54.338+00:002016-12-03T20:22:54.338+00:00I think a possible difference is that the majority...I think a possible difference is that the majority of the branded coffee shops are managed by the brand owner. The public and who complain about the on/off trade differential are tenants or lessees; they are stuffed from both the on/off trade perspective and the gap between their prices and those negotiable by their free trade competitors.<br />To make a decent return in a tied pub( at least a Pubco , not necessarily a small brewer ) you must have a worthwhile food operation.Malcolm Nichollshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04114433389090892217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-33377360031831300992016-12-03T17:37:39.609+00:002016-12-03T17:37:39.609+00:00I canmake a cup of coffee using supermarket ingred...I canmake a cup of coffee using supermarket ingredients for less than 50p but I have never come accross Costa or Starbucks or Nero complaining about that. Coffe shops, like pubs are about far more than the product they selldcbwhaleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02585310584555592882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-53733083486941781452016-12-03T17:15:02.766+00:002016-12-03T17:15:02.766+00:00You weren't far off, Mudgie.You weren't far off, Mudgie.Billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-43569026877306262422016-12-03T14:49:13.180+00:002016-12-03T14:49:13.180+00:00Many well-known quotations weren't said as suc...Many well-known quotations weren't said as such by the people they're attributed to, including the famous ones by Burke and Voltaire.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-35477608424126994232016-12-03T13:11:21.240+00:002016-12-03T13:11:21.240+00:00Churchill didn't say that, exactly. Although i...Churchill didn't say that, exactly. Although it's not a bad line, and he did do the crocodile bit. At that point, he was having a dig at neutrality, specifically. Aimed trans-atlantic, like? The speech was printed (in full) in the NY times. Or you can <a href="http://www.churchill-society-london.org.uk/Joybells.html" rel="nofollow">read it here</a>. Cheers!StringersBeerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12573068197944669997noreply@blogger.com