tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post2045321418511623786..comments2024-03-29T15:44:32.514+00:00Comments on The Pub Curmudgeon: Never glad confident morning againCurmudgeonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-90667759766219635912021-06-16T13:15:25.490+01:002021-06-16T13:15:25.490+01:00Camilla was very strong on the faults of both side...Camilla was very strong on the faults of both sides, but on balance I'd say the two Brew dogs copped it more. The phrase "Hipster Philip Greens" will live on I feel.Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-82870119175834225972021-06-16T08:14:47.493+01:002021-06-16T08:14:47.493+01:00Maybe, but in general a bureaucratic culture is li...Maybe, but in general a bureaucratic culture is likely to act as something of a brake on the activities of of dictatorial and abusive founders.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-50452849773763922352021-06-14T13:23:14.169+01:002021-06-14T13:23:14.169+01:00Yes, I think some people may have unrealistic expe...Yes, I think some people may have unrealistic expectations about what working for a dynamic start-up business is like, made worse by them believing it's pursuing a noble cause. <br /><br />Apparently there was a damning article in yesterday's <i>Sunday Times</i> by Camilla Long, showing little sympathy for either side, but it's paywalled and I haven't seen a photo of it.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-89670261053047155472021-06-14T12:37:05.243+01:002021-06-14T12:37:05.243+01:00I doubt even Brewdog themselves would deny they ha...I doubt even Brewdog themselves would deny they have used some fairly outlandish marketing campaigns. That they are based only half-truths would also not be much of a surprise to anyone.<br /><br />The issues raised regarding the workplace seem to stem from the culture of the company being fast-paced and pressurised. This which is common in businesses undergoing high growth. That type of workplace is never going to be for everyone.Beermunsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09564489130909572144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-82986689742714728972021-06-14T10:46:21.266+01:002021-06-14T10:46:21.266+01:00What is striking about the letter is the lack of d...What is striking about the letter is the lack of detailed allegations which would amount to a breach of the contract between the employer and employee. The main substance of the letter is a moan by former employees about how the business has been developed with particular reference to certain marketing ploys. I accept that this could result in a culture of disillusionment but it does not amount to a culture of fear.john a lambnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-49181124224994148972021-06-14T10:22:46.578+01:002021-06-14T10:22:46.578+01:00The Brewdog bar in Manchester is overflowing on a ...The Brewdog bar in Manchester is overflowing on a Friday or Saturday night. It seems less busy at other times but I've never seen it empty.Beermunsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09564489130909572144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-59632550968222789512021-06-14T10:20:54.783+01:002021-06-14T10:20:54.783+01:00Any company in the hospitality industry which made...Any company in the hospitality industry which made money in 2020 must be doing something right. In the case of Brewdog they seem to have survived by producing vast quantities of beer into cans and selling their beers in any supermarket which will stock them (which seems to be all of them). Maybe not the most "punk" strategy but if it keeps them afloat who would blame them.Beermunsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09564489130909572144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-51281522057920771252021-06-14T09:48:24.815+01:002021-06-14T09:48:24.815+01:00It's also exposed just how sycophantic and pro...It's also exposed just how sycophantic and producer captured most beer writing is, whether it's a beer positive craft kids Curtiszine, or any number of local CAMRA magazines.<br />News has a habit of exposing PR fluff.TakeSexPestingOutOfCraftBeernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-72827994585135032602021-06-13T15:27:28.043+01:002021-06-13T15:27:28.043+01:00Only ever been to one once, in Birmingham at the e...Only ever been to one once, in Birmingham at the end of a Proper Day Out in 2017. They come across as a slightly more hip and urban Brewhouse & Kitchen. Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-84200132401697226222021-06-13T15:16:10.092+01:002021-06-13T15:16:10.092+01:00its been nearly 2 years since Ive been to a place ...its been nearly 2 years since Ive been to a place that even had a Brewdog, though the rumour mill perpetually threatens theyll set one up in Ipswich eventually, but so I couldnt judge how popular they are now, they were always less busy when I made the effort to go to one, but then I always deliberately tried to pick a time to to avoid the crowds anyway, Id always assumed they busied up with the late evening crowds. I never thought the places really sold the PR line of being these ultra focussed on customer beer palaces, more often than not the staff looked bored and were happier chatting to their mates, which is quite frankly the standard in 90% of bars/pubs you go in.<br /><br />but I assume they make enough profit from it, even if it isnt perhaps as successful as its portrayed, but Ive never seen them as rock star brewers I think thats very much a craft beer bubble thing, very few people even with a passing interest in beer are going to be able to see a photo and identify them, I could have sat next to one in a bar and I wouldnt have been any the wiser. It maybe highlights craft brewers have an ego,and inflated self importance, which leaks into other areas as much among the people who are then attracted to work for them as it is the way business is run.<br /><br />but I dont know enough about the allegations, certainly the more serious ones that have been published, to comment on them, so I wont.Stonohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02656315721111561414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-84298613393637942792021-06-12T19:43:37.054+01:002021-06-12T19:43:37.054+01:00I tend to agree with Martin in that they are alway...I tend to agree with Martin in that they are always fairly empty when I go in despite decent beer, food and no hassle.Britain Beermathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06096636784719969464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-10821060422417216192021-06-12T16:32:02.734+01:002021-06-12T16:32:02.734+01:00Wow, 15:31, that's quite the mouth you have th...Wow, 15:31, that's quite the mouth you have there. <br /><br />No workplace - none - should put so much pressure onto their staff that they feel bullied, undermined, stressed beyond reasonable measure or expectations, and certainly not abused. It's nothing to do with "woke" demands, whatever the term "woke" currently means. <br /><br />If women - and sadly it is always women - feel unsafe working for a brewer, or in a bar, it is not their fault. Your snide insult to transpeople is noted for what it is.Doktorbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15236566237119488631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-40382680810627844572021-06-12T15:31:37.365+01:002021-06-12T15:31:37.365+01:00I think Brewdog is fast becoming a Harvester of cr...I think Brewdog is fast becoming a Harvester of craft (bollocks) beer market. Tacky, naff. The market/trend has moved along and left Brewdog behind. Why pay those kind of prices for something so shallow a concept? That's all it is, a has been concept, accepted mainly by the entrant customers not knowing any better. Angus steakhouse of the beer market, for the mugs.<br /><br />On the other hand I have no sympathy for the snowflake employees either. It's supposed be a workplace, not a woke playground for "vulnerable". I wonder if Brewdog should have a safe place for trans employees when they can find shelter from the evil owners? https://www.blogger.com/profile/10603987317820861401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-40649885343316403852021-06-12T13:11:20.304+01:002021-06-12T13:11:20.304+01:00Brewdog seem to have made about £1 million in 2020...Brewdog seem to have made about £1 million in 2020, which isn't great on sales of £215 million but also not too bad for a rapidly growing company. However, they plan yet another fund raising (along with an IPO) when conditions allow and this will probably be vital to their financial health, unless their US private equity backers come up with more cash - no doubt at a price in terms of their percentage stake). The catch is that continuing expansion will put back the time when they are able to declare a meaningful profit.Ian Wordennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-77212922943904255392021-06-12T11:24:47.438+01:002021-06-12T11:24:47.438+01:00A lot of people seem to have a very misplaced fait...A lot of people seem to have a very misplaced faith in a HR department, who let's fact it know which side their bread's buttered. Brewdog no doubt have an HR department, and last night I spoke to a female brewer who used to work for a multi-national and she had stories every bit as bad as what's been reported from the craft breweries. Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13844169940650659196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-77182500773310858212021-06-12T10:52:44.523+01:002021-06-12T10:52:44.523+01:00Are Brew Dog actually successful (i.e. do they mak...Are Brew Dog actually successful (i.e. do they make money, as opposed to just generating social media noise and filling Tesco shelves). Genuine question. It's just they're always quiet when I gp in one for their food, which is often the best in town.retiredmartinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15429804437739227082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-6208312352888502322021-06-12T09:05:05.664+01:002021-06-12T09:05:05.664+01:00Employees are the rungs on the ladder of success.
...Employees are the rungs on the ladder of success.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Don't hesitate to step on them.KJPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-38711341157890200742021-06-12T08:10:42.728+01:002021-06-12T08:10:42.728+01:00The other day after having read about this Brewdog...The other day after having read about this Brewdog matter the first time I received an email from them. It says<br />"Planet Brewdog. This is your way of helping us offset CO2 and save the planet. As a thank you for helping us kill carbon, you can also earn rewards through Planet BrewDog, from free beer to exclusive content."<br /><br />Utter nonsense. I have 1001 Brewdog "shares" and paid £500 for them at the time. On paper these are worth a lot but am sure somehow us small "shareholders" will get shafted. "Kill carbon". FFS.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10603987317820861401noreply@blogger.com