tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post2695882629329181162..comments2024-03-29T08:01:51.705+00:00Comments on The Pub Curmudgeon: Diversity of provisionCurmudgeonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-79393705839890538542016-07-19T14:33:26.112+01:002016-07-19T14:33:26.112+01:00Probably because I deliberately set it up as a bin...Probably because I deliberately set it up as a binary poll.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-30831790170877510342016-07-19T14:32:38.798+01:002016-07-19T14:32:38.798+01:00One of the places where this conflict often occurs...One of the places where this conflict often occurs is my local pub, the Nursery. If you don't see it, it is, as I said, an indication of the narrowness of your pubgoing habits. Central Stockport is not the whole pub world.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-30865375214050638012016-07-18T09:58:16.260+01:002016-07-18T09:58:16.260+01:00I notice that nobody voted for your preferred solu...I notice that nobody voted for your preferred solution, 'diversity of provision'. (Either that or a third of us did!)Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07009879034507926661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-42631468446112862842016-07-17T11:44:00.669+01:002016-07-17T11:44:00.669+01:00And when do we want them? 1950.And when do we want them? 1950.Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-83762415627012376122016-07-17T10:18:34.036+01:002016-07-17T10:18:34.036+01:00What do we want? More laws for other people! What do we want? More laws for other people! StringersBeerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12573068197944669997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-60443345593464864352016-07-17T07:36:58.988+01:002016-07-17T07:36:58.988+01:00You must be unlucky. Screeching infants is rare in...You must be unlucky. Screeching infants is rare in family pubs. The exception, not the norm. But even if you are unlucky in this regard all that is required is to avoid such places.<br /><br />As a capitalist you know, as do I, the business model of catering is based on money per table. Low prices require more turnover. Macdonalds can charge £4 a meal because the table is used for 20 minutes. Restaurant charge £20 a head because you take hours over the table. High turnover is going to involve all parts of society. Spoons is cheap because they sell more burgers.<br /><br />You can afford to pay for the exclusivity of a low turnover table that does not attract families of five. Simply accept paying for it.Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-27936803012302933422016-07-17T07:30:08.576+01:002016-07-17T07:30:08.576+01:00Sticking to pubs I like & not wasting coin in ...Sticking to pubs I like & not wasting coin in pubs I don't first requires the determination of what I like, so requires an initial reccie of many places, even if that is just having a dump and not buying an over priced pint.<br /><br />If we take your Mecca of Stockport, the reason for not eating in the Spoons is not the families. It is the sticky tables and sticky menus. The gaff is a dump. Other (nicer, cleaner) Spoons are available a short bus ride away.<br /><br />Leaving the Spoons, every pub around it is a drinkers pub without families. One or two dining pubs are around with families during the day, most are wet led. If you go as far as the Railway in Portwood, from the Spoons, walking 5 minutes & passing 5 wet led child free pubs on the way you even get a sign on the door barring children.<br /><br />There is a better choice for boozers than families and arguably there is a market to cater for families far better than they currently are.Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-430403330700226982016-07-16T18:27:18.622+01:002016-07-16T18:27:18.622+01:00Yes Lucretius, as I regularly point out to the ant...Yes Lucretius, as I regularly point out to the anti-smoking zealots. If I'm in a good mood I'll usually inquire of them sweetly what vacuum cleaner they have at home....and wait for them to tell me that they have the latest bit of German Hausenkleanen-elektrikern that will filter out every allergen, pollen and virus known to respiratory science. The Blocked Dwarfnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-7134439143554903922016-07-16T16:56:35.648+01:002016-07-16T16:56:35.648+01:00Modern ventilation equipment is easily capable of ...Modern ventilation equipment is easily capable of extracting cigarette smoke enabling both smokers and non smokers to enjoy pubs and importantly keep many viable.Lucretius1https://www.blogger.com/profile/18213610249777895917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-27360373647148449462016-07-16T16:33:35.385+01:002016-07-16T16:33:35.385+01:00That surely is an indication of the narrowness of ...That surely is an indication of the narrowness of your pubgoing habits. And one of the biggest flashpoints is Spoons, which I get the impression you do patronise from time to time.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-85032228953311419572016-07-16T16:32:37.985+01:002016-07-16T16:32:37.985+01:00All such polls are just a talking point, Nev. But ...All such polls are just a talking point, Nev. But you may remember that my poll on the EU referendum was a lot more accurate than most of the professional opinion pollsters.<br /><br />And are you happy to drink in pubs surrounded by screeching infants? Really? I'm not.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-72467686131542695672016-07-16T16:17:46.927+01:002016-07-16T16:17:46.927+01:00Isn't that what has happened in a way; people...Isn't that what has happened in a way; people choosing to drink at home, with or without friends? There is a question of prices but you can choose whether to smoke or watch football or a film etc.KJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07339137349962768014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-13699218866478183972016-07-16T16:16:17.233+01:002016-07-16T16:16:17.233+01:00CL is talking sense, and - apart from the bit abou...CL is talking sense, and - apart from the bit about not liking pubs much - I agree with all he says.<br /><br />I agree that the poll is interesting but you are drawing a lot of conclusions from the responses of a self-selected sample who represent 0.0000000130769% of the population.RedNevhttp://rednev-rearm.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-9541849173371782662016-07-16T12:47:45.709+01:002016-07-16T12:47:45.709+01:00This seems to be an on going bug bear I don't ...This seems to be an on going bug bear I don't see in the real world. All Northern towns of my acquaintance, including the Mecca of Stockport, have food pubs with families & drink led pubs for adults with no kids present. Who is actually unable to find a pub they like?<br /><br />I don't much like pubs but even I can find one that is sort of enough of my cup of tea to potter in for a pint occasionally.<br />Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-11211898984822316682016-07-16T12:02:13.646+01:002016-07-16T12:02:13.646+01:00Of course, demanding people "take the rough w...Of course, demanding people "take the rough with the smooth" is ultimately why people decide not to bother going to the pub in the first place...Pete Favellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06118087223604691014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-30710333077172135242016-07-16T10:55:42.653+01:002016-07-16T10:55:42.653+01:00Meanwhile, back in the real world...Meanwhile, back in the real world...Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-73855940965604822532016-07-16T10:38:49.985+01:002016-07-16T10:38:49.985+01:00Or put the kiddies in the smoking area? Let the li...Or put the kiddies in the smoking area? Let the little bleeders get used to it like in the good old days. Sat In A Pubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08123038980796000837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-51251885027711491712016-07-16T10:32:13.582+01:002016-07-16T10:32:13.582+01:00Precisely. If you want to interact with people you...Precisely. If you want to interact with people you have to take the rough with the smooth.<br /><br />The anti-smoking zealot would have to make a choice between tobacco smoke and good company, or splendid isolation and the screeching of infants.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-74232099264142353632016-07-16T09:48:01.562+01:002016-07-16T09:48:01.562+01:00Like actually talking to people, or otherwise atte...Like actually talking to people, or otherwise attempting to engage them in conversation?Paul Baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09678639237696546268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-76971455822546903342016-07-16T08:34:30.791+01:002016-07-16T08:34:30.791+01:00Maybe pubs should be reorganised into little indiv...Maybe pubs should be reorganised into little individual capsules so each drinker could have precisely the environment he or she wants without having to endure anything remotely unpleasant or triggering.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-65988087875721609732016-07-16T08:32:19.420+01:002016-07-16T08:32:19.420+01:00Indeed it is.Indeed it is.Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-1926992695970469302016-07-16T08:20:42.643+01:002016-07-16T08:20:42.643+01:00Your idea of merging smoking and child-free areas ...Your idea of merging smoking and child-free areas is a little harsh on those of us who would quite like to have a pint without screaming children *or* a faceful of noxious fumes :)Pete Favellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06118087223604691014noreply@blogger.com