tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post5658196797874501157..comments2024-03-29T08:01:51.705+00:00Comments on The Pub Curmudgeon: Responsibility or appeasement?Curmudgeonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-9889265307939379412011-08-29T21:09:15.736+01:002011-08-29T21:09:15.736+01:00Talking about appeasement,
lets not forget the Pub...Talking about appeasement,<br />lets not forget the Publicans<br />and their remaining clientele,<br />they and they alone are responsible for the continuing<br />demise of the real English Pub,<br />their pathetic compliance and<br />whimpering obedience will mark them<br />when the day of reckoning arrives.<br />Let it so be written<br /><br /><br />Waiting for the richochetsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-4380273244229020082011-08-29T16:35:52.878+01:002011-08-29T16:35:52.878+01:00Further to previous posts, check this out: http://...Further to previous posts, check this out: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2031160/Deadly-risks-couples-sharing-bottle-wine-dinner.html. Read this in the pub (pub's copy; no way am I BUYING the Daily Wail) On my return, I checked out 2020Health, the outfit which produced the "report" in question. It's a commercal body which costs £100 for individual membership, corporate membership by arrangement. Its CEO is an optician whose proudest acheivement seems to be floogging her practice for a shedload of money, its board includes an ex-banker, Tory MP and CEO of a network of health insurance companies and the bloke who did the computer graphics for the Da Vinci Code. Its research team includes an "independent policy consultant" and an investment analyist specialising in the pharmaceutical industry. At least when George Best's liver surgeon pontificates on the demon drink, he does it from a position of some authority unlike this bunch of bozos. It's a self-perpetuating industry, fuelled by rags like the Daily Wail and hoovered up by the new puritans who want to eradicate all pleasure in life. Sorry to go on a bit but this made me quite cross. A nice relaxing pint might be in order now.Billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-34661627503782780652011-08-28T10:21:54.782+01:002011-08-28T10:21:54.782+01:00@anon06.06
I don't want to ban anything. We h...@anon06.06<br /><br />I don't want to ban anything. We have enough bans as it is.Billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-2222625349616557412011-08-28T06:06:50.696+01:002011-08-28T06:06:50.696+01:00'Maybe we need to draw a distinction between d...'Maybe we need to draw a distinction between drinks which are to be enjoyed and may lead to inebriation and those which are designed simply to achieve oblivion as quickly and cheaply as possible'.<br />Divide and conquer is so bloody easy isn't it?<br />Some street drinkers drink strong cheap wine, I don't drink any wine ever. Ban it. I also hate spirits, ban it.<br />The banning brigade will never stop. They will wittle away at the obvious targets and then move on. Drinks will become more expensive and weaker until the last 1% piss water is left.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-14529966156153303642011-08-27T22:20:34.466+01:002011-08-27T22:20:34.466+01:00I have no Heineken products to hand, but the "...I have no Heineken products to hand, but the "safe limits" certainly appear on a bottle of Castle Rock Harvest Pale.<br /><br />I honestly don't know to what extent Mr Orlowski is being naive as opposed to calculating, which is why I merely asked the question rather than putting the boot in.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-36595565083343402342011-08-27T21:54:36.417+01:002011-08-27T21:54:36.417+01:00Russell VR Ord makes a very good point, although h...Russell VR Ord makes a very good point, although how much choice you have when you've reached the point where White Ace is your only option is perhaps debatable. However, he made me read the Curmudgeon's original post again, a bit more carefully this time. Are Heineken REALLY putting the utterly fictitious "safe limits" on the bottles? It is common knowledge that these were concocted for political reasons back in the 1980s and yet they are now virtually Holy Writ. (Go to Drinkaware: For the Facts. Yeah, right)<br />The Ordmeister is quite right; such craven sucking-up to the Health Fascists will only encourage them.<br />Right. I'm off to the pub now.Billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-67424010226469071202011-08-27T21:44:47.656+01:002011-08-27T21:44:47.656+01:00It's a bit like that bartender who refused to ...It's a bit like that bartender who refused to serve alcohol to two women because their children would see them drinking. <br /><br />With staff like that, you may as well close all the pubs. Same for Heineken's CEO, sad to say.Frank Davishttp://cfrankdavis.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-14093148569640837712011-08-27T20:39:52.962+01:002011-08-27T20:39:52.962+01:00I think that this stance will further add to the d...I think that this stance will further add to the demise of the Great British Pub :(<br /><br />Off sales of cheap high strength lagers, ciders and spirits maybe a problem BUT in the end it is about freedom of choice.<br /><br />A leading brewing company being in support of 'what is good for us' we just hasten the denormalisation of alcohol, just as is happening with nicotine (not just tobacco).<br /><br />Russell VR Ord<br />Campaign for Vaping in PubsRussell VR Ordhttp://camvip.webs.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-7300960956825692362011-08-27T19:15:11.058+01:002011-08-27T19:15:11.058+01:00Didn't know about this. I saw Diamond White as...Didn't know about this. I saw Diamond White as a premium strong white cider that was reasonably readily available in pubs. I wouldn't drink it myself but I wouldn't want to stop anyone alse from doing so. I do however have a problem with the ultra-strong, ultra cheap white ciders such as White Ace, which are not available in pubs and are made, seemingly, just for street alcoholics. Maybe we need to draw a distinction between drinks which are to be enjoyed and may lead to inebriation and those which are designed simply to achieve oblivion as quickly and cheaply as possible. What do other people think?Billnoreply@blogger.com