tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post6828107205981678903..comments2024-03-29T08:01:51.705+00:00Comments on The Pub Curmudgeon: Never the twain shall meetCurmudgeonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-45664544670730489542017-02-03T21:12:39.285+00:002017-02-03T21:12:39.285+00:00It depends whether the pub/bar uses percentage or ...It depends whether the pub/bar uses percentage or cash to calculate margins. Wholesale prices for "craft keg" ( defined by the brewer or wholesalers rather than the customer) certainly increase by more than the additional duty as brewers look to augment their margin for more marginal products, but retailers using percentage margins exacerbate the problem (as do many restaurants).Malcolm Nichollshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04114433389090892217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-46540241939137585992017-02-03T17:25:31.666+00:002017-02-03T17:25:31.666+00:00Problem at the moment is that anyone cutting down ...Problem at the moment is that anyone cutting down production would have the gap filled by either a new brewery or another brewery increasing production to meet the demand at the previous price point.Liam Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15022574154892543459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-61717480683503926452017-02-03T14:57:24.118+00:002017-02-03T14:57:24.118+00:00The price differential in pubs seems to be much mo...The price differential in pubs seems to be much more marked with craft beers than cask. Most places with a selection of cask will price the stronger beers higher, but the 8% stuff will only be 30 or 40p more than the 4% session ales. This I suspect reflects the increased duty. But in many craft bars, the 8% and above stuff is often double the price of the 4% beer.Beermunsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09564489130909572144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-64737601088644311222017-02-03T13:52:29.572+00:002017-02-03T13:52:29.572+00:00The big (and small) breweries would love to sell l...The big (and small) breweries would love to sell less beer at the same price. The only question really is whether they will be able to push the marketing enough to make it stick.Robnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-18523028372985282962017-02-03T13:32:52.350+00:002017-02-03T13:32:52.350+00:00But 12oz measures (often in six-packs) have always...But 12oz measures (often in six-packs) have always been the norm in the USA.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-49702254162673411262017-02-03T13:23:15.046+00:002017-02-03T13:23:15.046+00:00Ah ok. I don't know, a couple of decades is a ...Ah ok. I don't know, a couple of decades is a long time. If we were to follow the US path then PBA will end up becoming relatively niche.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05959041481062727069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-50662809974769652252017-02-03T13:08:34.131+00:002017-02-03T13:08:34.131+00:00Oh, I'm definitely not saying that 330ml sizes...Oh, I'm definitely not saying that 330ml sizes will be phased out, just that they won't take over the world. And the single-price PBA model in supermarkets has a similar stifling effect to flat-rate pricing for guest beers in pubs (esp Spoons).Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-40153188987271940772017-02-03T13:03:52.850+00:002017-02-03T13:03:52.850+00:00It's a bit odd that in general in pubs what yo...It's a bit odd that in general in pubs what you pay is affected by the ABV but it hardly comes into it in the supermarket (apart from a few very low abv ones going for a quid). For me personally I do mix and match between the two, but then the offer at Morrisons crosses the divide. But if it wasn't for the fact that I like variety I'd be sticking with the 500ml Proper Job at £1.50 each. I disagree with you though on the 330ml getting phased out. I think if anything in the long term we're going to see more of it. ABI will be pushing it, and we'll see more 4/6 packs just like you have for lager.<br /><br />Of course, the real big difference is when you go from the supermarket to the independent. But then the independent does give you beers that supermarkets just don't have (even Booths). I'm perfectly comfortable with that, in the same way that I'm happy glugging a bottle of wine at a fiver but quite like trying the 10 quid plus ones too.<br /><br />And seeing as you mentioned Cloudwater, I believe they're going to be exclusively canning in 440ml. Apparently this is the year of the 'big can'.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05959041481062727069noreply@blogger.com