tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post6933667777775091798..comments2024-03-25T18:49:00.608+00:00Comments on The Pub Curmudgeon: See how it works yet?Curmudgeonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-90420983040603149082017-02-07T14:09:38.151+00:002017-02-07T14:09:38.151+00:00"Can cigarette smokers really tell the differ..."Can cigarette smokers really tell the difference between, say, standard Silk Cut, Marlboro, B&H and Lambert & Butler?"<br /><br />Seriously?<br /><br />Of course they can.<br />kevin websternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-31747837809136385612017-02-03T08:18:04.014+00:002017-02-03T08:18:04.014+00:00Things were different back in the day when you cou...Things were different back in the day when you could easily find your more distinctive fags - your Woodbines, Dunhills, Capstans, Sobranie etc.<br /><br />And it's different on most of the continent where standard supermarkets seem to sell varied and exciting stuff. Sobranie Citrus, Caramel cigarillos and other delights.<br /><br />Can cigarette smokers really tell the difference between, say, standard Silk Cut, Marlboro, B&H and Lambert & Butler? <br /><br />Ben Viveurhttp://benviveur.blogspot.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-66866869327371805902017-02-01T19:22:15.311+00:002017-02-01T19:22:15.311+00:00My recollection from my smoking days is that there...My recollection from my smoking days is that there *was* a noticeable difference in flavour and character between different mainstream brands of cigarettes. And there is also a wide gap in price between premium and economy brands.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-976739616684637482017-02-01T16:29:27.123+00:002017-02-01T16:29:27.123+00:00And cigarette tobacco if you bother to find out th...And cigarette tobacco if you bother to find out the difference between Virginia, Turkish, and Perique for example and make your own cigarettes. Specialist tobacconists provide all these good cigarette tobaccos !Lucretius1https://www.blogger.com/profile/18213610249777895917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-27955286550850193222017-01-31T22:25:56.041+00:002017-01-31T22:25:56.041+00:00Whether the paradigm extends significantly to beer...Whether the paradigm extends significantly to beer will depend on exactly what packaging is banned.<br /><br />The 'craft' of the tobacco world isn't mainstream cigarette brands. It's cigars. It's pipe tobacco. It's snuff. It's all the things us purely recreational smokers go to specialist tobacconists to purchase because they're not available in supermarkets/cornershops/off licenses/pubs (with a very few notable exceptions).<br /><br />Now, if the 'plain advertising' legislation extends to all tobacco products, we have a real problem. If it's just mainstream cigarettes, then there will be a precedent for exempting the beer we like.<br /><br />It's a triumph of marketing that so many cigarette brands exist, frankly. If you think mainstream lagers are hard to tell apart, try telling the difference between mainstream cigarettes. They are virtually identical and typically sold at identical prices.<br /><br />The rich diversity of pipe tobaccos on the other hand...Ben Viveurhttp://www.benviveur.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-41226565087536973162017-01-30T12:53:08.713+00:002017-01-30T12:53:08.713+00:00Whilst you are correct that advertising can only s...Whilst you are correct that advertising can only sell a bad product once, good adverting can convince people that their product is good especially if the consumer has no preconceived ideas about what is good. <br /><br />I remember as a teenager back in the late sixties that our crowd was heavily influenced by the advertising for keg beers such as Red Barrel & Whitbread Trophy which emphasized their coolness and sexiness. It was only when I started work and came under the influence of some real beer drinkers that I came to realise that draft beer was a good drink. And it still those young drinkers, with no preconceived notions, that the advertisers are trying to catch<br /><br />Incidentally back then we called it draft beer or keg beer. The word ale was only ever used in an ironic way such as "He had too much ale last night" to explain a colleagues bad temper.dcbwhaleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02585310584555592882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-10420733275299165082017-01-30T11:05:55.301+00:002017-01-30T11:05:55.301+00:00As someone who has never smoked, I consider the ba...As someone who has never smoked, I consider the ban on advertising and the insistence on plain packaging for cigarettes to be rather misguided. The more you restrict something, the more allure it garners for certain people - the old 'forbidden fruit' scenario. <br /><br />When I was a child, pubs were spaces whose threshold children could not cross: there was an invisible line across the doorway. I was therefore fascinated what might be going on, even though I was more familiar with pubs than most other children, my uncle being a pub manager for Tetley Walker. The very fact of not officially being allowed in (except in one pub as a visiting relative) still made them more interesting than many of them deserved. RedNevhttp://rednev-rearm.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-68450434458307331832017-01-30T10:14:35.792+00:002017-01-30T10:14:35.792+00:00Oh the irony for those making common cause with pr...Oh the irony for those making common cause with prohibitionists hoping they will target mainstream booze and leave niche booze alone, only to find quite the opposite occurring.Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-68065451630396561612017-01-29T20:27:36.747+00:002017-01-29T20:27:36.747+00:00>>And would even writing blogs or magazine a...>>And would even writing blogs or magazine articles about them be prohibited as a form of indirect advertising?<br /><br />Yes, of course it would. You know how it works...Vovahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01823050600809389492noreply@blogger.com