tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post7376446647904268870..comments2024-03-29T08:01:51.705+00:00Comments on The Pub Curmudgeon: 200% proof positiveCurmudgeonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-19943382085675959552012-03-26T20:52:04.531+01:002012-03-26T20:52:04.531+01:00Well done Chris Mar,kicking the bearded backstabbe...Well done Chris Mar,kicking the bearded backstabbers,CAMRA, into touch<br />That pathetic pack of foam snorters have done<br />more damage to the Taverns of England than the <br />Black Death,Oliver Cromwell,Luftwaafe and Patricia Hewitt combined.They are not alone,<br />we need reminding of the million or more who<br />still stand in Pub doorways like stunted skunks <br />unable or unwilling to utter a squeek of complaint between them.<br /> points to ponder<br />A gallon of Guinness........£25.60p<br />A gallon of petrol.........£6.45p<br />50 Grammes Rolling Tobacco £14.34p<br />Worth a thought<br /><br />JeremiahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-59175357701145373052012-03-26T20:24:30.788+01:002012-03-26T20:24:30.788+01:00Thanks for that link - very typical that is full o...Thanks for that link - very typical that is full of totally fictitious statements like "Alcohol consumption in northern Europe is at a historical high and is continuing to increase" and positions consumption in the region as "high" by comparing it will less prosperous regions. There are lots of statements of "proven evidence" but the document is conspiculously missing any kind of reference list.<br /><br />The writing is on the wall, but like Chris below, CAMRA's hierachy, out of touch with their membership yet again, have chosen to support the hammering of the first nail. We can only hope the membership at the AGM tell them how out of step they are.GeordieManchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03926305998637585626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-37443867660123243222012-03-26T20:14:50.845+01:002012-03-26T20:14:50.845+01:00If there was a legal case to answer, perhaps the h...If there was a legal case to answer, perhaps the health concerns raised would have to be proven and justified. Reading around there is enough to suggest that the problems and stats are being exaggerated and manipulated. The agenda on this has been clear for some time.<br /><br />Some of the figures touted about the benefits of minimum pricing seem pie in the sky. None of the downsides of course (like substitution).<br /><br />As someone on a budget enjoying a few beers at the weekend, this is a disgraceful policy, that failed to deal with the 'problems.' Are not bad behaviour and self-abuse failures of the individual?tinkshttp://bit.ly/tinkswunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-3150457831563414592012-03-26T16:40:24.908+01:002012-03-26T16:40:24.908+01:00I'm so angry that apparently I can't spell...I'm so angry that apparently I can't spell "membership"...Chrishttp://www.chrisward.org.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-86733118610765665522012-03-26T16:37:29.681+01:002012-03-26T16:37:29.681+01:00Petition signed (not that it'll do any good I ...Petition signed (not that it'll do any good I suppose) and I'm cancelling my CAMRA memebership because of their support for minimum pricing.Chrishttp://www.chrisward.org.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-35297113148165350232012-03-26T16:08:21.114+01:002012-03-26T16:08:21.114+01:00From Dave Atherton:
I do not pretend to be an exp...From Dave Atherton:<br /><br />I do not pretend to be an expert on EU law but there are exemptions on the Single Market for matters of conscience or health. Tyson, tobacco restrictions are based on a treaty from the World Health Organization, signed by Her Majesty's Foreign Office, there is one for alcohol. The international treaty signed by "Sir Humphrey," the UK government via the EU is legally obliged to reduce the drinking of alcohol in this country. <br /><br />As you can see with smoking there is not a damn thing you can do.<br /><br />http://www.euro.who.int/__data/assets/pdf_file/0007/79396/E88335.pdfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-51393839150065979822012-03-26T15:31:49.327+01:002012-03-26T15:31:49.327+01:00Love the fact that the elephant in the room in tha...Love the fact that the elephant in the room in that cartoon is smoking a fag ;-)Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-40436259019270924432012-03-26T15:24:24.932+01:002012-03-26T15:24:24.932+01:00Stepping through your link into another link
http:...Stepping through your link into another link<br />http://saxontimes.blogspot.de/2012/03/minimum-pricing-of-alcohol.html<br /><br />increased taxation may well be adopted.Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-58919072972603052692012-03-26T15:08:17.718+01:002012-03-26T15:08:17.718+01:00There is a fair bit of case law about minimum toba...There is a fair bit of case law about minimum tobacco pricing, but obviously it remains to be seen what the courts actually say. Of course, if it was thrown out, the government could simply set the level of duty at 33.3p per unit of alcohol for all types of drink, and outlaw below-cost selling.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-7781077964877481632012-03-26T14:26:47.124+01:002012-03-26T14:26:47.124+01:00We'll have to wait and see, but I suspect that...We'll have to wait and see, but I suspect that our hope, that it may turn out to be illegal, is sadly clutching at straws in the ocean. I know a lot of the political bloggers keep on banging about it being so, but very few of them are experts in EU law.Sat In A Pubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08123038980796000837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-34059798776609792182012-03-26T12:24:54.741+01:002012-03-26T12:24:54.741+01:00Quite so and, as I've said before, stigmatisin...Quite so and, as I've said before, stigmatising alcohol will disproportionately affect out-of-the-house drinking.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-2436583977745682162012-03-26T12:20:44.561+01:002012-03-26T12:20:44.561+01:00When drinking becomes the habit of a minority, dri...When drinking becomes the habit of a minority, drinkers can expect the same treatment as smokers.<br /><br />Prohibition for the poor will become prohibition for the middle class pong drinker.Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-89519246386467541332012-03-26T12:17:36.825+01:002012-03-26T12:17:36.825+01:00Alcohol Prohibition the first attack has arrived!Alcohol Prohibition the first attack has arrived!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com