tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post8111644218631524336..comments2024-03-29T08:01:51.705+00:00Comments on The Pub Curmudgeon: Looking a gift horse in the mouth?Curmudgeonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-76805730056538409822014-04-20T01:17:38.703+01:002014-04-20T01:17:38.703+01:00In Birmingham at least, a couple of the "real...In Birmingham at least, a couple of the "real ale"-orientated pubs - Post Office Vaults and the re-opened Woodman - accept CAMRA Wetherspoons vouchers - presumably taking a 50p hit on the hope of generating more custom that will pay itself back. <br /><br />The later pub is also taking them for real cider :) <br /><br />So I reckon I may manage to use mine this time fingers crossed (just renewed my membership).Alex Whttp://twitter.com/koenig_jakpnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-52692416264487191022014-03-22T21:36:54.661+00:002014-03-22T21:36:54.661+00:00Oh, to live the life of py.
He he, sorry.
My spo...Oh, to live the life of py.<br /><br />He he, sorry.<br /><br />My spoons vouchers would have been used in my non-spoons pub, but I forgot. The beer's pretty good there.<br /><br />Now sitting in Anchor, Birmingham. Gorgeous pub.andy5759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-73131645441206355362014-03-11T13:28:14.421+00:002014-03-11T13:28:14.421+00:00nevermind sarcasm, pointing out typos on comments ...nevermind sarcasm, pointing out typos on comments boxes is now officially the lowest form of wit.<br /><br />pynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-22355000633579011702014-03-10T23:24:36.950+00:002014-03-10T23:24:36.950+00:00Py - "beer preference presciptivism" - i...Py - "beer preference presciptivism" - is this meant to read "prescriptivism" (which according to wiki is the meta-ethical view which claims that, rather than expressing propositions, ethical sentences function similarly to imperatives which are universalizable—whoever makes a moral judgment is committed to the same judgment in any situation where the same relevant facts obtain) or something else?Sheffield Hatterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01150338231906559719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-3469269955740939352014-03-10T10:49:32.396+00:002014-03-10T10:49:32.396+00:00I think a lot of people initially join CAMRA becau...I think a lot of people initially join CAMRA because they mistakenly think that we stand for promoting good beer and good pubs. They're then generally disappointed to find we actually stand for shamelessly promoting wetherspoons, beer preference presciptivism and prohibitionist facilitation.<br />pynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-35722130035266250742014-03-10T09:46:50.741+00:002014-03-10T09:46:50.741+00:00>CAMRA is supposed to champion independent loca...>CAMRA is supposed to champion independent locals<br /><br />Err, not specifically but know where you are coming from.<br /><br />>not act as Spoons marketing department. <br /><br />Agreed...Rob Nicholsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14871887147718814739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-68210309996274245302014-03-10T09:10:30.663+00:002014-03-10T09:10:30.663+00:00£20 of beer tokens to Spoons.
CAMRA discount schem...£20 of beer tokens to Spoons.<br />CAMRA discount scheme offering pub discounts (often no signs up, you have to suss it out and ask, more often than not. Value? Depends but 30p x 10 pints = £3)<br />Free & reduced entry to beer festivals (variable value but probably at least £5)<br />Subscription to a half decent beer magazine (4x£4=£16 ?)<br />Subscription to a piss poor beer newspaper (12x£1 = £12 ?)<br />Around 1 free piss up a year (usually under the pretence of giving a brewer a gong), but sometimes more. Requires you to pay a bit of attention to branch activities.<br /><br />Come on, You don't have to agree with Tand, or any beardies. All you have to be is be a bit of a piss head that likes a bargain. You'd be mad not to join!<br />Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-58048210964430338742014-03-10T08:45:20.486+00:002014-03-10T08:45:20.486+00:00I rarely use mine for reasons of forgetfulness. Wh...I rarely use mine for reasons of forgetfulness. When I go to London where it feels more worthwhile, they are somehow always forgotten.<br /><br />As for CAMRA membership? Who knows but as the vouchers in effect give you membership for free, but you still have to go through the process and fork out the dosh upfront, I can't see the actual advantage, unless, horror of horrors, you actually agree with CAMRA and find this a convenient way of telling yourself you have a bargain.Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-84859896909498006802014-03-10T08:24:09.222+00:002014-03-10T08:24:09.222+00:00Without spoons tokens the campaign for wetherspoon...Without spoons tokens the campaign for wetherspoons pubs would whither and die.Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-74792417019181508262014-03-10T00:27:44.442+00:002014-03-10T00:27:44.442+00:00the thing youve left out though is that alot of co...the thing youve left out though is that alot of commentators have said CAMRAS increase in membership lately is purely down to the Wetherspoons vouchers, so the fact their actual use is limited is interesting.<br /><br />Ill use them...and Im under 50...if I remember to take them with me and Im not buying a meal with a free pint or during a beer festival when Ill just do halves anyway.<br /><br />the point for me with the vouchers and why I dont use them that often I think, is actually Im not that bothered about 50p off a pint that only costs £2.20 to begin with, because thats already more than £1 cheaper than any other neighbouring pub, and nearer £1.50 in some cases, and if I wanted a discount actually it would be from the expensive pubs first, not Wetherspoons.Stonohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02656315721111561414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-75416378811863559792014-03-09T23:23:32.109+00:002014-03-09T23:23:32.109+00:00Not a problem. What a lot of members do, in my exp...Not a problem. What a lot of members do, in my experience, is to give their surplus vouchers to members who will use them. I tend to use my allocation up in about 7-10 days so gladly soak up any excess. Only once have I been left with any to spare and that was when I was given 20 with 3 days to go. Tysonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06340737025756817655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-27035685334640572692014-03-09T21:00:15.782+00:002014-03-09T21:00:15.782+00:00CAMRA is supposed to champion independent locals, ...CAMRA is supposed to champion independent locals, not act as Spoons marketing department.LiamTheBrewerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17343568963519802907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-56571268507574955322014-03-09T13:05:36.154+00:002014-03-09T13:05:36.154+00:00I'm saving this quartet's vouchers for the...I'm saving this quartet's vouchers for the Spoons Beer "Festival" that starts on the 28th. Happily, this runs over two of the voucher periods.Lizard Seerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07497330695288945161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-3825921165940224422014-03-09T12:06:49.581+00:002014-03-09T12:06:49.581+00:00As far as I can tell, the vouchers are there to en...As far as I can tell, the vouchers are there to encourage you to visit one of their establishments, over that of a local rival. While you're in there buying a beer, you may be tempted to buy food (higher profit margin), or visit again for one of their countless "coming soon" beers.<br /><br />I do not need a voucher to "encourage" me to drink in one of their 7 local branches. With 100 other real ale pubs in my area, I have enough choice that I can make an informed decision about where to drink. Personally I just bin my vouchers<br /><br />The only point that you appeared to have missed, is what would happen to CAMRA's membership if the scheme ended?RobsBeerOdysseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16384700060797831693noreply@blogger.com