tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post8218140903003928245..comments2024-03-29T08:01:51.705+00:00Comments on The Pub Curmudgeon: A breath of fresh air?Curmudgeonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-56797734517667183182020-06-15T12:36:04.186+01:002020-06-15T12:36:04.186+01:00I am looking forward to that. My local in the vill...I am looking forward to that. My local in the village plus the other pub have significant beer gardens, the local one being vast! Great news. The local pubs have been making and delivering food. That has been well received and certainly provided an income stream. One in a village a few miles away opened a shop on site for basic stuff and also fresh veg. Sitting out front with a good old mate having a few cans, though pleasant, doesn't have the ambience of the local pub. Counting down to Monday week.Dr Evilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00176521760477086914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-954823968564079152020-06-13T17:20:29.400+01:002020-06-13T17:20:29.400+01:00Boomers? I think not. The spending power is with t...Boomers? I think not. The spending power is with those who come out in droves to spend £5 and lots more on a pint or 2/3 in style bars and craft bars in town and city centres. That's because their finances are driven mostly by cashflow, not accumulation. Many have given up on the idea of owning their own property and are actually quite happy being able to move around at will and spend the money on cars and lifestyle choices. Boomers generally spend as little as possible in more traditional surroundings. electricpicshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09144970068645280352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-17643716651477089372020-06-13T06:21:39.223+01:002020-06-13T06:21:39.223+01:00What is a 'boomer'? People have been visit...What is a 'boomer'? People have been visiting beauty spots,beaches and going on demonstrations in large numbers,this shows that the majority of the population wishes to get on with their lives whilst taking basic health precautions such as regular hand washing. The desire to socialise will mean that pubs will be well patronised once they are permitted to reopen,some pubs,probably those which were unviable before closure will reopen and then close permanently but many will survive and prosper with new venues,encouraged by the inevitable introduction of new licensing and planning laws,opening to fill gaps in the market. The future will not be as grim as some think.John Lambnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-1921890787941372502020-06-12T17:02:33.671+01:002020-06-12T17:02:33.671+01:00Well it won't we the first industry to be kill...Well it won't we the first industry to be killed by factors beyond its control and I doubt it will be the last.<br />My home town's prosperity was based on coal mining and the heavy woolen trade, both of which were destroyed in the seventies and eighties.<br />But it surviveddcbwhaleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02585310584555592882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-7952316556193379252020-06-11T12:29:32.955+01:002020-06-11T12:29:32.955+01:00Anon is right. Pubs are done.
What % drop in trade...Anon is right. Pubs are done.<br />What % drop in trade does for a business?<br />Social distancing coupled with customer reticence knock most of the turnover into the toilet for the rest of the year.<br />Most pubs are not coming back.Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-69700990877411055992020-06-10T10:20:03.533+01:002020-06-10T10:20:03.533+01:00People with the spending power and who go to pubs ...People with the spending power and who go to pubs are in large part the boomers.<br />That age group won't have the confidence to return as a majority until this country achieves "New Zealand" status or we're all vaccinated.<br />Such a prospect is nowhere in sight.<br />The economy is screwed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-30321618424311466782020-06-10T09:01:04.570+01:002020-06-10T09:01:04.570+01:00On the plus side sitting outside in shitty weather...On the plus side sitting outside in shitty weather will at least give the puritans an idea of what smokers have been going through for years.<br />Boris isn't stupid.He knows opening pubs is the key to a happy electorate.<br />And not going down on one knee like that cretin Starmer yesterday.<br />What.a.twat.Professor Pie-Tinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-71198514467319715352020-06-10T08:11:53.722+01:002020-06-10T08:11:53.722+01:00This blog attracts the minority that use pubs but ...This blog attracts the minority that use pubs but public space is just that, public and for the majority.<br />If we give it to pubs for street drinking then give it to all street drinkers. Stop persecuting the tramps and the spesh selling offies.<br />As for the mothers with kids & grannies that will have to run the gauntlet of street drinking, give 'em a CAMRA leaflet.<br />Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-51591960609665360582020-06-09T21:27:46.059+01:002020-06-09T21:27:46.059+01:00I think you've got to start somewhere. A lot h...I think you've got to start somewhere. A lot have died & although I am a great pub fan and willing them open obviously,the rest of the population has to be carried along with this. There is also the matter of staff welfare- not everyone in the trade is under 30 and at low risk of virus harm,although this aspect hasn't had that much attention- though there's been plenty of nervousness in other retail sectors- pub staff are no different in this health risk regard. The pressures financially on all industry must be massive, and pubs are no exception. The nation as a whole will not be carried with a sudden full opening pragmatically & significant virus levels are still about. I think we need to run with it & get up and running at below capacity then filter up to full capacity,with one eye on the virus figures. Pandemics have a long history of repeat phases if relaxation is too early. As such I feel a steady as you go approach however imperfect is the right one. Of course all pubs are different & it will cause there to be even more winners & losers depending on individual pub circumstance, but one month to six weeks steady phased returns could save many lives here having got this far.IrishseaDavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15210995859042509244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-40698963558275779312020-06-09T21:17:00.905+01:002020-06-09T21:17:00.905+01:00It's a bit academic now, but I'd expect an...It's a bit academic now, but I'd expect any pub making a serious effort at this to provide awnings. Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-38335155545373066842020-06-09T21:12:43.396+01:002020-06-09T21:12:43.396+01:00Excellent analysis.
Just thinking about this toda...Excellent analysis.<br /><br />Just thinking about this today, as I passed an attractive Cambridge pub with a large garden. What happens when there's a sudden shower and customers can't take cover in the pub ?retiredmartinhttp://www.retiredmartin.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-16286201849764536022020-06-09T19:44:59.074+01:002020-06-09T19:44:59.074+01:00We need a demonstration in every pub to campaign f...We need a demonstration in every pub to campaign for reduced beer duty and have a pint or 2 at the same time.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02366074364027625309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-48455095704189921562020-06-09T18:06:01.506+01:002020-06-09T18:06:01.506+01:00I wonder if there's some sort of power struggl...I wonder if there's some sort of power struggle going on in the cabinet.<br /><br />Either that or someone's playing games with us all.Paul Baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09678639237696546268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-69078420243679056862020-06-09T18:05:51.488+01:002020-06-09T18:05:51.488+01:00I wonder if there's some sort of power struggl...I wonder if there's some sort of power struggle going on in the cabinet.<br /><br />Either that or someone's playing games with us all.Paul Baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09678639237696546268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-34614342590870758272020-06-09T16:17:43.557+01:002020-06-09T16:17:43.557+01:00Well, it looks like it's not going to happen a...Well, it looks like <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jun/09/english-pubs-beer-gardens-open-coronavirus?CMP=share_btn_tw" rel="nofollow">it's not going to happen anyway</a>. What a shitshow.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-35926829212822046282020-06-09T16:07:03.653+01:002020-06-09T16:07:03.653+01:00Don’t worry about social distancing. If a crowd of...Don’t worry about social distancing. If a crowd of you turn up wearing Black Lives Matter T-shirts, you can stand three deep at the bar, no problem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5623537812609722663.post-38560114714078206792020-06-09T14:26:25.479+01:002020-06-09T14:26:25.479+01:00Wise words Mudgie, but as you say (and I'm par...Wise words Mudgie, but as you say (and I'm paraphrasing), you have to start somewhere.Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.com