This may have been said partly in jest, but there are now serious suggestions that local authorities should turn vacant shops into official warm rooms for cash-strapped people to congregate instead of staying at home. There may be merit in this idea, but surely, as Richard Coles suggests here, to some extent pubs provide a ready-made solution. Plus the pub is already heated, so nobody is incurring any additional bills.
Licensees, with good reason, have always been resistant to the idea of allowing freeloaders to spend extended periods in the pub without putting any money across the bar, and to not being able to exercise control over who is allowed entry. It would not be reasonable to expect already cash-strapped pubs to extend this welcome out of the goodness of their own heart, but if this role was formally recognised it could be a reason for pubs to receive additional financial support.We’re going to need public places that are heated and open to all to help people through this coming winter, so maybe government could solve two problems by discounting energy bills for pubs to keep them open and people warm?
— Richard Coles (@RevRichardColes) August 30, 2022
It might require pubs to incur additional costs, such as by opening longer hours and paying staff to work them, as this would tend to be mostly a daytime activity. And the visitors would no doubt expect to use facilities such as toilets, wi-fi and charging points that the pub had already paid for.
Licensees would have to put up with pensioners bringing in their own sandwiches and a thermos flask of tea, but of course they might even end up actually buying some food or drink from the pub. However, a line would surely have to be drawn at bringing in their own alcoholic drinks, which undermines the whole trading basis of the pub. And I suspect that the local authority warm hubs would have to enforce a no-alcohol rule to prevent street drinkers bringing in piles of cans and causing trouble. The warm rooms would need a lot more organisation and policing than might at first be imagined.
Maybe nothing will come of this – after all, you don’t hear much nowadays of pubs providing “community toilet” facilities which were widely discussed a few years ago – but it’s something that must be worthy of serious consideration.
And, of course, people are still free to seek out the warmth and hospitality of the pub in the normal manner...
It would be a noble gesture maybe, but a pub full of people not actually interested in the pub itself or its products for sale would kill what a pub actually is, it may well generate some more business , on the other hand could well drive existing paying locals away.
ReplyDeleteAny pub that signs up to some hypothetical scheme to provide "warm rooms" will probably be big enough to apply some degree of segregation. And it would be mainly a daytime thing, so the clash with regulars would be limited. I can't really see it happening, tbh.
DeleteAll very well Curmudgeon but many pubs around me only open 4 nights a week and the local Wetherspoons are full of ferals.
ReplyDeleteThis would turn pubs into air raid shelters. I'm not having kids running round knocking my drink over. Well intentioned I guess Vicar but stick to Vicaring and we'll stick to pubbing
ReplyDeleteKids would be in school. It would mostly be pensioners.
DeleteWithout wishing to be cruel, probably less than 25% of those currently experiencing difficulty in paying the latest energy prices can say in all honesty that this is through no fault of their own decisions, too many families expect the government to bail them out time and time again. Throwing money at the poorest it society will neither give them parity with higher earners, not in any way incentivise them to spent less or save more
ReplyDeleteI doubt that 75% of those people made the decision to double or triple their energy bills.
DeleteIf bad government decisions make people unable to meet their commitments it is only right that the government should help them.
How would you incentivise the poorest to spend less and save more?
given its reported the likes of Tom Kerridges pubs energy bill have leapt from £60,000 to £420,000 and Brewdog are closing some pubs in London, claimed due to energy costs, how warm exactly are alot of pubs going to be this winter ? I knew one landlord many years ago who chose to limit the heating in the pub to minimise their costs in winter rather than just keep the heating on full time. It will be interesting to see how long those bar heaters for the outside seating areas that became the thing to have during covid will last, if pubs start limiting them
ReplyDeletePubs that take government money to keep poor people warm will lose control of their entry criteria and be obliged to let in anyone.
ReplyDeleteThey will become as desirable as pubs to drink in as the down market doss houses that accept DSS and call themselves pseudo B&Bs are to stay in.
It's a great idea...a house where the public can go.
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