As I mentioned in my post about the pub garden smoking ban, the government are now also threatening the drinks industry with Minimum Unit Pricing (MUP). The headline is misleading, as the pub sector would, for now, be largely immune from this, but the intention is very clear. I have written about this at length over the years, mainly in the content of Scotland, where it was introduced in 2018. The conclusion, as set out in the Scottish government’s own report, was that it had done little or nothing to reduce problem drinking and had, as many of us had predicted, led to undesirable side-effects. The main underlying motivation for the policy seems to punish and denormalise ordinary, moderate drinkers by increasing the price of a modest, everyday pleasure. It has the same logic as increasing the price of petrol as a strategy to improve road safety.
It is disappointing that many in the pub trade seem to believe that MUP would be a desirable policy. However, under any scenario it would still leave off-trade drinks much cheaper than those in the on-trade, so the idea that it might prompt a switch in drinking habits does not stand up to analysis. Indeed it could be argued that it might harm pubs by squeezing household budgets and leaving them with less disposable income.
Their motivation seems to be more a case of wanting to spite the off-trade who they perceive as rivals. However, most people divide their drinking allegiance between the two depending on circumstances, so it isn’t a binary choice between one or the other. In reality, the enemy of both is the public health lobby. It’s rather like the communists and anarchists being at each other’s throats during the Spanish Civil War, which only served to benefit Franco.
Something that tends not to be appreciated is that MUP is actually a policy that plays into the hands of the off-trade, as it in effect allows them to operate a government-sanctioned price fixing ring, something that most businesses yearn for, but is generally outlawed by competition law. The price elasticity of alcoholic drinks is well below 1, so, while they may lose some sales, they will more than make up for it through fatter margins on the drinks they do sell. It will give them more incentive to promote the sale of alcoholic drinks, as they will generate more profit per square foot, and it may also give them the opportunity to raise the prices of premium products to maintain a differential. Because of this, the drinks industry in general tends to be fairly relaxed about it. The people it really does hurt are drinkers of modest means.
The government have demanded that the industry do more to “tackle the harms of drinking”. However, as long as alcohol is sold legally, some people are going to abuse it. The only way they can completely eliminate any responsibility is to stop producing and selling alcohol entirely. In recent years, the industry has promoted a number of initiatives aimed at reducing the harms of alcohol, including setting up the Portman Group to monitor irresponsible advertising, and DrinkAware to advise on health risks. It has also reduced the strength of a vast array of beers and ciders.
But, however, far you go, it will never be enough for Public Health, and they will always want to go further. Appeasement only results in further demands. Surely all that should be expected of alcohol producers is that they should meet all the legal requirements placed on them. If government wants them to do more, that must be clearly set out.
The relationship between government and drinks producers is also likely to change over time. Health groups have demanded that the government ban MPs from receiving gifts from firms involved in “tobacco, alcohol and junk food”. Notice who they’re lumped in with? In future, alcohol producers will be increasing regarded not as valued contributors to a successful economy, but as pariahs involved in a “toxic trade”, who simply have to do as they are told and have no right to be consulted or involved in decision-making. There is no point in alcohol producers arguing that they are different from tobacco manufacturers, when Public Health regard them as two sides of the same coin. And yes, craft brewers, that means you too. Much of that will also be applied to retailers of alcohol such as pubs, not just to producers.
I made the point back in 2020 that, despite a lot of negative publicity, the drinks industry has in fact over the past fourteen escaped relatively lightly from the tide of lifestyle regulation. The duty escalator was abandoned, duty has been frozen in some years, and never increased above the rate of inflation, and there have been no significant restrictions on advertising and promotion.
But that is likely to change in the coming years so, over and above the pub garden smoking ban, expect to see MUP, above-inflation duty rises, severe curbs on advertising and sponsorship, display restrictions in shops, further attempts to reduce beer and cider strengths, and maybe even plain packaging. Buckle up, folks, it’s going to be a bumpy ride!
I think the supermarkets as a whole need looking at. Yes prices have gone up but I think there is a cosy little cartel operating in the UK at the moment. What's the margin on a £4 can of beer for heaven's sake. Loss leaders are ok but they make money of the basics.
ReplyDeleteRegards that bloke a few posts ago wanting a serious debating society on here, perhaps he would be better off in the reading room of the British Library. I think the comments on this forum are a good mix of serious and a bit of fun, just like a pub eh. I think it best it mimics a pub and not the Oxford Union Debating Society. But when all is said and done it's The Mudge Show and long may it last.
I did a post about this ages ago, but I don't believe that supermarkets do sell slabs of lager at an actual loss. It wouldn't make sense for them to make a loss on something that might make up the greater part of someone's shopping bill - that's not how loss leaders are meant to work. But they do undoubtedly drive a hard bargain with suppliers and sell them a very slender margins.
DeleteSupermarkets are a very competitive industry. Most retain less than 5% of turnover as profit. In most industries that would have investors very concerned.
DeleteA MUP of 50p would mean a bottle of spirits selling at a minimum of £15 and a bottle of wine at a minimum of £5. That is below the price at which they already sell.
DeleteAnd the minimum price for pint in the pub would be £2. Way below the price at which it nnow sells.
So I don't understand the fuss
Plenty of spirits sell for less than that, especially litre bottles. There are plenty of wines below £4.99 in Aldi and Lidl. Slabs of beer very often sell for well under £50p/unit. And the minimum price in Scotland is going up to 65p this month.
Delete@Beermunster - but that's inherent in the nature of the business. Some types of businesses, typically those with high sales volumes where there is little need for original research and relatively little differentiation, naturally have lower margins than others. Yet people still complain about the "obscene" profits made by supermarkets.
DeleteOf course, the off trade will still buy it cheap. Breweries will not benefit. And most of all, it is a tax that will affect poor people more than drunks.
ReplyDeleteI spoke against it successfully at CAMRA members weekend several years ago and less successfully a few years later. I think MUP is still (misguidedly CAMRA policy though I may be wrong there.
It won't put a single bum on a pub seat for sure.
Breweries probably will benefit to some extent, as they won't be under the same pressure to sell at ultra-low prices.
DeleteYou're really arguing to put prices up, Mudge. Not a single pub nor punter would benefit. Before long working class Britain is paying Danish prices or worse.
DeleteEh? I'm not arguing in favour of this, just pointing out the implications.
DeleteI'm afraid that squeezed household budgets is already affecting my pub-going, and I doubt if MUP will make much difference. I'm one of those nerds who keep a record of what beers they've drunk (in pubs). Here are the totals for the past 10 years.
ReplyDelete2014 - 389 pints
2015 - 352 pints
2016 - 374 pints
2017 - 367 pints
2018 - 362 pints
2019 - 402 pints
2020 - 220 pints
2021 - 180 pints
2022 - 131 pints
2023 - 96 pints
Pub visits are down too - from 159 in 2014 to 54 in 2023.
But I'm not drinking less beer - I'm making more homebrew, drinking more supermarket cans, and I'm going out less often. MUP will just mean more homebrew, less supermarket.
I added up all your beers over the the decade and I'm proud to say I reckon I have done that in the last 18 months.
DeleteLighweight.
If you know how to mash and then boil the hops and malt (and get the ratio right) you can do it for under 20p a pint (or 35p for impy stout).
DeleteMaybe, but the selling price won't hugely influence the buying price. If you assume the supermarkets will sell less to make that so, then maybe I'm wrong and MUP works.
ReplyDeleteIt "works" in a crude sense, as it reduces overall sales of alcohol somewhat. But problem drinkers are the least likely to cut down - they will seek economies elsewhere in their budget. And, as I said, the price elasticity of alcohol is well below 1, so if you increase the price by 10%, volume sales will decline by much less than 10%.
DeleteNo-one's a problem drinker these days who shouldn't be. If they are, the NHS covertly intervenes.
Delete"Something Must Be Done"... like what? I don't think there is anybody in Britain that has the power to save Britain. We need foreign allies to help us, like we saved help the world in the 1940s. Kick this evil government of occupation out.
ReplyDeleteIt's a parody of a certain type of knee-jerk response from politicians.
Delete- We have a problem
- Something must be done
- This is something
- OK, let's do this
I fail to see how MUP can be appealing to both "Public Health" and the drinks industry. Sure, the latter may see it as an opportunity to increase margins, but ultimately they will be concerned with volume of sales & maintaining a customer base. Without knowing what the minimum price per unit would be, how can you be sure what (if any) effect it will have on the average drinker/ majority of drinkers?
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't say the drinks industry supports it, but at current levels alcohol retailers aren't too concerned, as they gain more in margin than they lose in volume. Manufacturers do not like it, as it reduces their volumes and they receive little of the benefit of higher revenues. Plus it reduces their competitive flexibility. But they would see across-the-board duty increases and restrictions on advertising and promotion as greater threats.
DeleteIf you look at the numbers from Scotland, pub going is declining faster than in England after MUP. There is no way anyone can lay claim to the idea it will aid the hospitality industry. You can ponder why. Whether demonising alcohol moves it away from the public square to the private or whether it's the economics of elasticity. Much like increasing the price of petrol doesn't reduce demand or consumption but has a knock on in reducing household disposables on other discretionary purchases. Home alcohol, bundled with groceries is inelastic where pub hospitality is elastic. Take your pick. Either way MUP has contributed to pub decline in Scotland.
DeleteI conclude that many bodies, like CAMRA, are uninterested in pubs. They like a certain form of pub. So long as the weird beer independent micro pub keeps going, the wider market uninterests them. So we shouldn’t much care what they say about what they think will help pubs.
I did some rough calculations. As far as I can tell, minimum unit pricing seems to hit the cheap wine buyers most of all. The people who want a cheap Aldi chardonnay to go with their Sunday lunch, for example.
ReplyDeleteI'd say the segment that was hit hardest is cheap cider. My local Home Bargains sells 500ml cans of Colliers Cider at 8.2% ABV for £1.25. Under the 65p/unit minimum price coming in in Scotland this month, that would be £2.67. So in practice they wouldn't sell any because you would be able to get Westons Vintage at that price.
Delete50p MUP would be 5£ minimum for a bottle of wine. And you can't buy a drinkable wine at that price
DeleteThis is another vicious attack on the poor by a bunch of entitled blood suckers who appear to serve no purpose apart from creating well paid jobs for themselves
DeleteSome people must find it drinkable, otherwise they wouldn't buy it.
DeleteAldi currently has 20 different wines priced below a fiver and having tried a few of them they're perfectly drinkable. No worse than what you'd happily drink on holiday in the country of origin and found it as the local house wine.
DeleteBut of course Labour will pursue MUP because they hate people enjoying themselves with a puritanical zeal while quite happily filling their own boots.
And I'll enjoy watching them do it because everything they've done since coming to power has convinced me they're a revolving door one-term government who fail to understand they weren't voted in because people love them but because they hated the Tories even more.
But then the average Labour turncoat supporter is thick as shit, happily sucking on the government teat during lockdown then ullulating in horror when the bill comes in.
Lord Nigel of Farage is patiently waiting in the wings while quietly building a nationwide ground structure and a shit-hot social and digital media operation. Reform membership is up to 77,000 - two thousand joined in the last month alone.
His time will come and the doodah going to hit the fan when it does.
Some people will drink methylated spirits :-(
Delete@PieWalla
DeleteKier doesn't appear to appreciate his large majority is a Tory collapse, not an endorsement of him. You'd think he'd use a term to convince us he's a safe pair of hands that can deliver a national revival. Instead he seems intent of becoming as despised as the Tories were. It's an open goal for Nigel. I'm no fan of his, his answers to popular anger won't deliver the results he promises, but he's already going into the next vote able to say a tory vote is the wasted vote in a 100 seats. The answer to this impending implosion is a drink of robust industrial strength lager beer.
My Scottish experience. The minimum price is a law and not a tax. The Scottish Government gets no benifit. Which must have miffed Wee Nicola. The manufacturer and retailers share the extra loot. All the really cheap booze - "ciders", "lagers" and "spirits" have dissappeared. The better stuff is doing all right with Bells, Grouse, Grants etc. available at £20 per litre equivalent. Every so often other blends, Johnny Walker Red Lable, etc., comes down to the same price, or very near.
ReplyDeleteThe same goes for beer. The good stuff was always above the minimum price, or near.
Perhaps the really cheap market has moved on to drugs. See Scotland's drug death problem. Obviously drugs need a minimum unit price law.
I think banning all kickbacks to politicians is a good idea.
ReplyDeleteOscar
No. Bribing politicians is actually one way of stopping it.
DeleteMaybe, but the implication is that these industries are seen as "toxic trades" rather than valued partners in the national enterprise.
DeleteAt least here in Ireland they are viewed as a good revenue earner.
DeleteOscar
It's no surprise to see Kiers government bringing back this old chestnut.
ReplyDeleteWhat is surprising though is things have moved on since the last Labour government were muting it. Price of a pub pint has doubled, as has a can of lager. Incomes have not doubled so booze is more expensive. Managed national decline makes everyone poorer in every way. Drinking is in decline.
Further, the idea has already been tried in Scotland and shown to be ineffective in its stated aims of reducing alcoholics. It has been shown to not increase pub going, but the reverse, reduce it. The numbers are in.
So why trot out the same justifications? Governments often justify measures for reason other than the real reasons. If they want to do something, they justify it in a manner they think most acceptable to the public.
If we accept the justification for the measures is patently false. They know them to be false. We know them to be false. What are the actual reasons for doing this?
When you look at measures that have convinced Gen Z that booze is unhealthy and to be avoided, it’s looking to me like the long term aim is prohibition.
What do you think the real reasons are?
Much of what the present government is doing seems to be motivated more by spite than any rational assessment of benefits.
DeleteMaybe, but when you tie it in with other lifestyle restrictions, you can see a sincere attempt to prohibit smoking. Over time to move to smoking being banned entirely. Every stage is a step towards that. Laughable to think of the police walking past the vagrant smoking cannabis by the childrens play area in piccadilly gardens to fine the office worker having a fag outside the wetherspoons, but that's where we are going.
DeleteThe war on booze looks very much like a step by step take toward prohibition. Every step reduces the normality of having a drink and removes situations where you might have otherwise had one. A drink becomes not a normal enjoyable social lubricant or relaxing moment, but a moment of harm we need protecting from.
It's not a conspiracy if they are actually out to ban it.
It's all about direction of travel. However much you concede to Public Health, they will always want more. There is no end point short of outright prohibition. They will never say "OK, this is our desired model of alcohol taxation and regulation."
DeleteOld Russian proverb
ReplyDelete'Daddy,now the tax on vodka has gone up will you drink less? No son,you will eat less.'
This shows the folly of 'health targeted' taxation.