Sunday, 2 April 2017

One door closes, another one opens

Towards the end of 2008, CAMRA set up a web forum. It was initially supposed to concentrate on specific campaigns to save pubs, but quickly developed a wider remit. Many of the boards were open to non-members, and it produced some lively discussions. However, it seemed to slowly peter out, not helped by the fact that very few of the National Executive members and other senior officers got involved. Matters were not helped when one particular moderator took it upon himself to start deleting posts on sight that he thought contained excessive quoting.

Rather than take any remedial action, or try to promote it more, CAMRA eventually decided to launch a new forum using the Discourse platform and close the previous one. Many existing users didn’t really like this particular software, but I suppose it’s something you would get used to eventually. However, the Discourse forum is a very different beast from the old one – for a start, it is restricted to CAMRA members and, while senior officers have got more involved, this has led to a rather serious and admin-heavy tone. There are also reports of heavy-handed moderation and posts expressing heterodox views mysteriously vanishing.

For these reasons, some of the active members of the old forum decided to get together and create a new forum which would allow the more wide-ranging and lighthearted discussions to continue. This has now been done in the form of the Beer and Pubs Forum. The old forum was closed in the early hours of Saturday morning, so this new one has now been officially launched. Why not take a look and see if it’s something that interests you?

It should be stressed that this forum is entirely independent of CAMRA and non-members are more than welcome. And the chap with the surname of Mudge isn’t me!

7 comments:

  1. Identity theft, surely? You should sue!

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    1. His username on the old forum was curMUDGEon, which did create some confusion ;-)

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  2. CAMRA Discourse is moderated, but I've seen none of this 'rather serious and admin-heavy tone. There are also reports of heavy-handed moderation and posts expressing heterodox views mysteriously vanishing.'

    All a bit of a nonsense.

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  3. Just wondered where that bright new forum might have got to, nearly eight years on.

    Back in April 2017 I commented on CAMRA Discourse

    'The new Beer and Pubs Forum hasn’t too much to commend it in terms of discussion and topics (beer good and bad, pubs, industry etc.,) and so far attempting to activate registration has not worked.

    The only ‘government policy’ topic posted is rather a well-worn whinge on the effect of the smoking ban. That really is water under the bridge.

    https://beerandpubs.prophpbb.com/'

    And going to that URL encountered:

    The domain prophpbb.com may be for sale. Click here to inquire about this domain.

    prophpbb.com

    Ho, hum. Despite all its manifest negatives, CAMRA Discourse has a little under 5000 registered users, 644 active users in the last seven days .... and after nine years, still thought-provoking and simulating .... the most popular topics in 2024?

    Where does beer stand in 2024 Q1?
    Leak suggests Carlsberg may axe eight cask brands
    A single beer that spoke 1,000 words
    Craft beer is keg. Prove me wrong
    Pete Brown's article on craft beer

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    1. Still here, although obviously not as active as Discourse. The link is in the left-hand sidebar.

      https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/beerandpubs/index.php

      I see a recent popular thread on Discourse was the perennial moaning about wanting an opt-out for Wetherspoon vouchers.

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    2. If the thread is read carefully it is wider than the CAMRA Member discount scheme and vouchers, and opt-out v. opt-in (I opt-out by not using them, as anyone and everyone can do, of course), but about the ethics of discounting, the business case, and also the perennial about beer prices and pricing, and a fair price for a pint ....... So rather more than mere perennial moaning.

      Turning to that lively alternative with 170 members ...

      Forums Topics Last post
      Beer

      Good beers, bad beers, favourite beers, beer styles, dispense methods, anything beer-related

      Beers I Drank Last Year
      by LifeafterfootballView the latest post
      10:42 AM - Feb 24
      Pubs
      Good and bad pub experiences, pub architecture, interiors, etiquette and anything else pub-related
      Pubs I Used Last year
      by Sheffield HatterView the latest post
      11:59 PM - Feb 23
      Industry
      Brewers, pub companies and any other commercial firms involved in the industry
      Robinson's update
      by PeterEView the latest post
      Nov 20, 2024
      Government policy
      Alcohol duty, licensing, planning, and any other policies that affect beer and pubs
      Pubs to reopen in May
      by MoonrakerView the latest post
      Dec 20, 2021

      Consumer groups
      Any groups representing drinkers, pubgoers and alcohol consumers in general

      2024 National Conference Motions - Full Measures
      by PeterEView the latest post
      Mar 29, 2024

      Yup - popular and lively!

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    3. Have you got nothing better to do?

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