Thursday, 5 December 2019

When is a town not a town?

Certainly looks like a town to me

We recently visited Shifnal in Shropshire, which in its general feel and appearance is undoubtedly a town, with a population of 6,776, a long main street with a number of historic buildings, and nine pubs currently trading. However, the point was made that, with it being fairly close to a number of larger places, the number and range of shops was rather sparse for somewhere of that size. This raises the question of exactly what qualifies somewhere as a town. (Apologies to anyone bored by this diversion from the usual topics).

Last week, Life After Football wrote about Melbourne in Derbyshire (population 4,843) , which he described as “a village that has almost morphed into a town”, although Wikipedia describes it as a market town, and from my experience it certainly feels quite urban with a large market place and a couple of Georgian streets. WhatPub lists five open and four closed pubs. In my formative years I did a fair bit of drinking in Frodsham in Cheshire (population 9,077), which the locals always describe as a village, but certainly gives the impression of a town, with a long, tree-lined main street, another busy street leading off it at right angles, a street market, a lot more shops than either Shifnal or Melbourne, and (in around 1980) fifteen pubs.

So how can we tell what is a town and what isn’t? The first thing to consider is what it looks like: for example, does it have a market place, a prominent town hall or other civic building, and one or more streets of closely-packed commercial buildings dating back at least to the 19th century? It also needs to fulfil a role as a centre for the surrounding area beyond its own population, through such things as the number of shops, the presence of an active street market, branches of the major clearing banks (although those are now a vanishing species) and a significant number of pubs. A long-established coaching inn-type hotel can also be a good indicator.

Another factor to look at is its administrative status before the 1974 local government reforms – was it an urban district , or better still, a municipal borough in its own right? However, it’s not an infallible guide, as none of the three places I have previously discussed qualified. These designations had also often been overtaken by history, as Much Wenlock, now a much smaller place than Shifnal and barely qualifying as a town, had municipal borough status.

At times this could lead to some anomalies, such as Montgomery, the county town of the eponymous Welsh county, which was until its abolition the smallest municipal borough in the country. However, I suspect it only gained this status because of being the county town, as today, despite having a market place and an imposing town hall, really is no more than a village, with a population of a mere 1,295, and I doubt whether things were much different in 1832. Small size alone, though, doesn’t debar a place from being a town, as Machynlleth, on the other side of Montgomeryshire, undoubtedly qualifies on the grounds of both appearance and hub function despite its population of just 2,235.

In this grey area there are quite a few places that have some of the characteristics of a town in terms of their buildings, but don’t really act as a hub or boast any more shops than a village. In his book The Historic Towns of Britain (which I would thoroughly recommend if you can find a copy), Lewis Braithwaite uses the term “urban village” for this category, and this certainly applies, for example, to several places on the Cotswolds such as Stow-on-the-Wold and Burford. Cheshire has a number of large villages such as Holmes Chapel and Tarporley, both of which stand at major road crossings and have seen their population boosted by recent development, but still fail to achieve that quality of being a town.

But is this a town, or a village?

In the south of the county, Malpas is described as a “former market town”, and certainly in its centre, pictured above, retains a fairly urban feel. However, its population is only 1,673 and it has now regressed to just being a village. It has only two open pubs (and one closed one), and if you want a drink on a weekday lunchtime you’re stuffed, because you won’t find either of them open. Maybe a criterion for being a town should be having at the very least one lunchtime opener.

Further uncertainty can be created where large urban areas have expanded to encompass former separate villages, which have often acquired a very town-like high street lined with shops. This includes areas of Manchester such as Chorlton and Didsbury, but they are really only suburbs because they lack a hub function for a wider area. On the other hand, places such as Hyde and Radcliffe that were previously towns in their own right before being swallowed up by the conurbation can still legitimately be regarded as such. Of the various satellite places within Stockport Metropolitan Borough, the most town-like is Cheadle, which was also an urban district in its own right before 1974, although its inhabitants, as with those of Frodsham, tend to refer to it as a village.

In the end, for many places the question of whether it is a village or town is always going to be a subjective issue and one people are never going to agree on – but it may provide a stimulating topic of debate in the pub.

20 comments:

  1. I find this interesting if only because I am corrected on my usage of the terms so frequently and with such energy when traveling in England. I would have thought the designations far from subjective based on how I am corrected. The terms village and town are used almost interchangeably in the US and I tend to do this naturally. None of my errors are corrected more frequently than my incorrect usage of these terms.

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    1. Of course in the US anything with more than six houses and a gas station is called a city ;-)

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    2. When I was in Las Vegas in around 2000, our coach driver defined a US city as "having a McDonald's, like British cities have a cathedral."

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  2. I'd say that Cheadle is a classic village - church, primary school, a few pubs - as opposed to the nearest town, Stockport, with its larger church, mainline railway station and a market place with larger pubs around it.

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    1. Yes, the locals all call Cheadle a village, but my point is that it has some town-like characteristics, and if the centre was transplanted into the middle of Cheshire it would undoubtedly be considered a town. And 100 years ago it was separated from Stockport by open fields.

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    2. The Stafford Mudgie5 December 2019 at 18:17

      And the larger Cheadle Hulme where my maternal grandparents lived most of their lives was always a 'village'.
      I think Cheadle Hulme and Gnosall, where I worked for ten years, are among a couple of dozen settlements that claim to be the largest village in England.
      I have always liked Montgomery, a proper county town that'll never be any bigger than a village.

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    3. I always thought the place that claimed to be the largest village in England was Braunton in Devon. Cheadle Hulme is really a quintessential suburb, which wasn't really even a village before the railway.

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    4. The Stafford Mudgie5 December 2019 at 19:32

      - but a quintessential suburb of Stockport or a quintessential suburb of Manchester ?

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    5. A bit of both I'd say.

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    6. The Stafford Mudgie6 December 2019 at 21:31

      Matt,
      I'm not sure about that as I always understood a suburb to be an outlying residential district of a town or city, not of more than one town or city.
      From 1929 to 1953 my grandfather commuted from Cheadle Hulme to Manchester and as that journey passed through Stockport it could be assumed that Stockport is another suburb of Manchester - and yet I know Stockport to have all the characteristics of a proper town.
      Maybe trying to define 'town', 'village' and 'suburb' is as futile as trying to define 'craft beer'.

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  3. Does it hold a market day ? Then it's a market town, Ipswich is a town but its bigger than some cities so size isnt everything

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  4. I often have similar discussions about what counts as 'London'... even though there's a definitive answer - whether you are or aren't within the Greater London boundary drawn up in 1968. But places on the outskirts often have their own individual identities and consider themselves part of their former Counties.

    I guess the same is true with towns - sometimes its more about a feeling than a definition or a boundary. Do the residents look inwards for cultural, financial, and historical reasons, or do they indentify with the wider area and describe themselves as from that place to others?

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  5. This is an interesting one as it's been done to death on local Facebook groups; there seems to be a fashion around here of "villageification": calling places a village in the hope that it ads some cachet to the area.

    Aldridge, for example, is clearly a town, as is Brownhills, but some residents of the former have taken to calling it a village (though one explanation is calling the centre of it a village), essentially because it's a bit more affluent and want to be seen as psoh, despite similar industrial origins.

    The area of Caldmore (oddly pronounced Karma, if you're local) was once a village (maybe 100 years ago...), and now clearly just a suburb of Walsall, but has adopted "Caldmore Village" as a name, for some reason in the last 10 years.


    Pelsall, also nearby probably actually qualifies as a village, in that it still has (a bit) of seperation from its surroundings to avoid it becoming just a suburb, and a central common, and is village-sized.

    The problem is, as you suggest, all this is largely subjective and changing with time.

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    1. Walsall is, of course, pronounced "Warsaw" ;-)

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  6. On a TV programme I watched recently, Burscough in Lancashire was described as a 'village'. It has a population of 9,182, which to me seems rather large for a village. The dictionary isn't much help: "a group of houses and other buildings that is smaller than a town, usually in the countryside". There are areas of Southport that are sometimes described as villages, such as Birkdale and Churchtown, even though both are well withing the boundaries of the town of Southport.

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  7. It's a town if it has a Wetherspoons.

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  8. A village has one or two pubs maximum. Maybe three, but four pubs and you are in a town.

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    1. The Stafford Mudgie16 December 2019 at 11:37

      I'm not sure about that.
      Penkridge and Eccleshall have each had several pubs and they are borderline between village and town.

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    2. I wouldn't really say Penkridge was very town-like. Eccleshall more so - the High Street feels pretty urban.

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    3. The Stafford Mudgie16 December 2019 at 15:43

      But what about Castleton in Derbyshire ?
      Six pubs but surely a village not a town.

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