Friday 7 June 2024

Think of a number

The letter reproduced below appeared in last week’s issue of the Spectator magazine – the original (paywalled) can be seen here.

No doubt the idea of a maximum consumption guideline of 80 units a week will raise a number of eyebrows, but I have seen such a figure bandied about elsewhere as a level, not which will avoid any adverse effects whatsoever, but above which there is likely to be a serious negative health impact if routinely exceeded.

That 40 units a week has been progressively reduced, first to 28, then to 21, then to 21 for men and 14 for women, and eventually to 14 for both sexes. The final reduction was done purely on the basis of equality even though there is plenty of evidence that women’s different physiology and typically smaller size merits a lower guideline.

It can be argued that suggesting that people drink less is never going to be bad advice as such. But simply plucking figures out of the air cannot be a good way to set public policy, and there is a risk that if one piece of advice comes to regarded as excessively over-cautious it will undermine the credibility of all public health guidance.

Plus, on an individual basis, if people are encouraged to be dishonest about their alcohol consumption it may inhibit giving them appropriate medical treatment. A few months ago I was responding to some health questions and gave a somewhat understated figure of alcohol consumption to come within these guidelines, but even then I was told that maybe I should consider cutting down a bit. If you’re going to be at the receiving end of a patronising lecture if you admit to drinking fifteen pints a week, you’re just not going to say it.

There is a parallel with the widely-publicised guidance to eat five portions of fruit and vegetables a day. Apparently this was arrived at by public health professionals in California taking the average consumption across the population and doubling it. Again, suggesting that people eat more fruit and veg isn’t bad advice as such, but if you fall short of it you’re hardly going to fall off a cliff-edge of risk. I don’t think I’ve eaten five portions of fruit and veg on a single day of my life (assuming you don’t include cider) but I’m still here.

On a more serious note, US medical chief Dr Daniel Fauci has recently admitted that many Covid restrictions, such as six-foot distancing and masking of children, had been implemented without any scientific backing. While such things may have seemed desirable on a precautionary basis at a time of widespread panic, we ended up closing down large swathes of the world economy and harming many businesses on the strength of what was no more than gut feeling.

Many naturally sceptical people had severe reservations about all this at the time, but were howled down as “Covidiots”, and it took a full two years before society was free of all Covid restrictions. And we are likely to be paying the price in terms of healthcare, education and the economy for many years to come.

18 comments:

  1. Of further concern should be the number of Temperance organisations that have rebranded from religion to health and have successfully captured the health quangos to ensure the data fed into them supports ever lower recommendations. These quangos now operate on research specifically designed to produce a desired result and adjust data that doesn't fit.

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    1. It is possible to be fit and lean and enjoy a bit of beer in moderation.
      Oscar

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  2. A quick calculation tells me I drink 45 units from Friday noon to Sunday evening, and on average 4 units rest of the week. A bit too low as the optimum level matches one's age.

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  3. I never believed anything about covid. Biggest lie in all of history. Biggest transfer of wealth in all of history.

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    1. Beware ignoring threats of disease at your own cost.

      The 2008 recession was the biggest transfer of wealth.
      Oscar

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    2. Lockdowns as implemented in the UK and Ireland were an extreme over-reaction to Covid which will cause problems for many years to come in terms of the economy, education and healthcare. Many of us pointed this out at the time but were howled down as "Covidiots". Three months might have been forgivable, but they dragged on for the best part of two years.

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    3. Covid-19 could easily have ended up like the 1968 flu epidemic, granted I would have preferred the Australian solution but not locking the borders down and implementing a proper quarantine system by December/January had made that a pipe dream by mid February the lack of proper PPE and hand sanitiser did not help. I hated the lockdowns but no one in my family which includes extended family died of Covid-19.

      Oscar

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    4. I would have preferred them to take the Swedish approach :D

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    5. With the Swedish approach you may not be here today to spread your wisdom.
      Oscar

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  4. In Ireland it used to be 21 units a week for men, currently 17 units a week for men. In men there is also a variation of how much beer can be consumed in moderation skinny lean young men like myself can drink less than a naturally stocky young man.

    Funnily enough when beer consumption was at its peak in the European beer belt very few people were overweight let alone obese. Beer does not automatically make you fat, added sugars has an easier job of doing that.
    Oscar

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    1. I think Irish units are bigger than UK units.

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    2. Guinness at 4.2 is 0.5 units less in the Republic of Ireland than the UK.
      Oscar

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  5. I told my doctor that I usually/sometimes had around sixty units a week. She gasped, but then the next doctor looked at my notes and said that I didn't drink excessively!

    Kingsley Amis once said that he'd rather have a few more pints now, that spend his last few years in a nursing home in Weston Super Mare...

    Amen to that!

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    1. "No pleasure is worth giving up for the sake of two more years in a geriatric home at Weston-super-Mare." That quotation is in the sidebar on the web version.

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    2. Oh bugger - I knew I'd read it somewhere and couldn't remember - my apols!

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    3. The medical profession define a problem drinker as one who drinks more than his doctor

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    4. Not so true now that a growing proportion of the medical profession do not drink for religious reasons.

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  6. There is an old quote from (I think) Spike Milligan in which the doctor tells him that he smokes too much. Spike replies "No, I smoke exactly the right amount".

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