Earlier this month, the Nursery Inn in Heaton Norris, Stockport, reopened after a £250,000 refurbishment by Hydes Brewery. This, which is my local pub, has a splendid unspoilt interior dating from 1939, and was CAMRA’s National Pub of the Year in 2002, one of the very few brewery tied houses ever to win this award. It is also one of the handful of pubs to retain its own bowling green still in active use.
I wrote in 2013 about my experiences of visiting this pub on Sunday lunchtimes over the years. It was once extremely popular but, despite receiving an earlier refurbishment in 2014, for various reasons its fortunes seem to have declined more recently. A couple of years ago, I remember one of the Hydes directors telling a CAMRA meeting that they would have to make major changes to the pub to revive it, but were being held back by planning constraints. Several of those present expressed concern about what this would mean for its historic interior.
However, as a Grade II listed building – and also meriting a three-star entry on CAMRA’s National Inventory of Historic Pub Interiors – the scope for structural change was very limited. It seems that what Hydes have done has respected the pub’s fabric, and could best be described as a general refresh and reupholstering, although there may have been more far-reaching changes behind the scenes, such as in the kitchen.
The two photos above show the main lounge and the vault. The lounge retains its wood panelling, bench seating and original stained glass windows, but has acquired some overlarge rectangular tables, although I suppose that is seen as necessary for the food trade.
However, it’s hard to see what difference the changes are going to make to the pub’s fortunes. The pub is in a tucked-away location and thus has no passing trade*, so it depends on a combination of either being a local or attracting customers as a destination for attractions such as food or live music.
The cask ale range has been cut back to Hydes’ three regular paler ales, Original, Hopster and Lowry, and the number of handpumps reduced. Neither of their two milds, Dark Ruby and 1863, are now sold and there appears to be no room to add seasonal beers, which it also sold in the past.
The initial food selection seems to major on variations on a theme of pie, mash and gravy, which is fairly limiting, whereas previously it had an extensive and varied menu. Whether a wider choice will be introduced in future remains to be seen, but I would say an attractive food offer is important to the pub’s appeal.
As the photo of the lounge shows, the pub also to my mind suffers from the presence of a large screen for TV sport in every room. I recognise that sport does bring customers in, but surely in a pub with three large rooms there should be scope for one of them not to have a screen, or for it not to be generally used. As I said in the blogpost, I don’t want to have to check the football fixtures before venturing out to my local pub. It also seems incongruous in the context of the historic interior.
So it remains to be seen whether the changes at the Nursery are going to do enough to bring customers flooding back in.
Meanwhile, a few miles away in Cheadle Hulme, Star Pubs and Bars have recently spent no less than £350,000 on refurbishing the Hesketh, which had been closed for over a year. This is anpther large suburban pub, in this case Edwardian, that once had a bowling green until it was replaced by a car park in the 1970s. I have to say that I hadn’t been in for many years prior to its closure, but I got the impression that it was a mainly food-oriented operation.
It now comes across as a fairly standard contemporary pubco refurbishment, with hard wooden floors, wide open spaces, pastel colours and an abundance of posing tables. This extract from the news story gives a flavour of what it is like.
Meanwhile, the layout will include a new games area with illuminated darts, pool table, HD TV, open fire and high tables and stools; a dining area with wood burner; and a bar with a mix of free standing and new leather button back banquette style seating.Nothing particularly objectionable, but on the other hand nothing to make it stand out from many other pubs either. Cheadle Hulme is a prosperous, leafy area with many long-established residents, and I can’t help feeling that the potential clientele might expect something a little more sophisticated, such as might be found in three nearby J. W. Lees pubs, Duttons, the Pointing Dog or the Aviator.The pub's food menu will feature pub classics such as burgers, fish and chips and grilled steak, gammon and chicken. A home comforts section will include dishes like Steak & Ale Pie, Hunter Chicken and Mac n Cheese. There will also be a choice of 'world favourites' such as Singapore Noodles, Tacos and Chicken Tikka Masala, lighter bites, and a small plates offering with a mix-and-match tapas style way of eating.
The drinks offer will include a range of beers, from Fosters, Amstel and Birra Moretti to Beavertown. There will also be cider, wine, an extensive range of spirits, zero alcohol and soft drinks and fresh coffee.
The cask ale offer is Theakston’s Best and Taylor’s Landlord. Some in CAMRA grumbled about the limited choice, but arguably it makes sense to tailor the range to suit the level of trade, and the pint of Theakston’s I had was pretty good. As in many pubs of this kind, there is something of a tension between TV sport and dining.
So, while a tidy sum of money has been invested, it still comes across as a “pub by numbers” without any distinctive USP, and it remains to be seen whether it will prove to be a success in the longer term. Being the only pub for half a mile in any direction is no longer a guarantee of success, if indeed it ever was.
* the concept of “passing trade” refers not only to chance customers happening to pass a pub and thinking they will call in, but passing it on their regular journeys and thus being aware of its existence.
Nice bench seating in the Nursery.
ReplyDeleteYes, and three rooms of it too. It is a very special interior, although I preferred it when it had small round tables :-)
DeleteI love Hydes pubs. I always enjoy the food and the two milds and Original bitter as well. The toilets are usually pretty good too. The Hesketh is my sons local and previously had a brilliant carvery. The Lees Machester Pale was very good too. Be interesting to see what it is like now.
Delete1863 is always my beer of choice in Hydes pubs, when available. After the move to Salford, I find the Original has an unpleasant tang to it. Hopster is a good beer of its type, but really too astringently hoppy for me.
DeleteMy son has confirmed the Theakstons Best and Taylor Landlord was in excellent condition when he visted the Hesketh a few days ago.
DeleteBeautiful pub The Nursery; it was one of the best in Stockport at one time. Always full.
ReplyDeleteSadly it's far from always full nowadays. It was run for many years by George and Susan Lindsay, who were brilliant licensees who really understood how to appeal to a variety of different customer groups. Becoming CAMRA's National Pub of the Year topped off their career.
DeleteLast time my comment on this blog didn't appear as due to presumably being against the owner's opinion so I'd stopped bothering. I'll try again.
ReplyDeleteIt's a great pub. And one I visited once in a crawl from Stockport to Heaton Chapel via the great Hope Inn. We got lost finding it... Would happily go back.
But these sprawling pubs have huge heating costs (much diminished now) and unpredictable custom. The predictable custom are five bar blockers in every night boring everyone.
I have lost the pub I first ever went to. The Cock in Worsley. It took went from thriving to five bar blockers over two decades. It's good it is now housing. More useful as that than some pointless memorial for beers had 40 years ago.
I remember rejecting a comment of yours. I don't keep a detailed record, but my recollection is that it was because it exhibited anti-smoker bigotry.
DeleteI don't censor opinions, but I do censor the unpleasant, hate-filled expression of opinions.
And I would refer you to the comment policy, which states: 'Arguments along the lines of “a no-smoking section in a pub is like a no-pissing section in a swimming pool” or “smokers are smelly scum” are vanishingly unlikely to pass muster.'
You do have a point, though, about the five bar blockers. Changing drinking patterns have left many of these big inter-wars pubs struggling, and plenty have closed. Going in and finding that the only customers are a group of blokes at the bar is often a sign of a pub in steep decline.
DeleteHaving said that, the Nursery isn't that big, and being located in a prosperous area with plenty of nearby housing means it isn't inherently unviable. But it does need the right offer, and to balance the wants of different customer groups.
The Hope Inn is no longer. Looks like it's going to be a Mother Hubbard's chippy.
DeleteI don't like it, it looks sanitised and like a bar in a ocean liner.
ReplyDeleteIt's empty, pal. Bet Spoons is rammed.
ReplyDeleteBecause of where it is, it doesn't compete directly with Spoons anyway. And a Spoons wouldn't be viable in that location because of the lack of existing footfall.
DeleteMy point was I see lots of these photos on blogs of these trad pubs and bloggers saying they are great. They are always empty tho.
DeleteThis was about 12.20 on a Wednesday lunchtime, so unlikely to be busy. Taking a photo of an interior when it's empty gives a better impression of what it's like. And, unless you're Simon Everitt, taking a photo of an interior with numerous people in it is a bit intrusive.
DeleteHad a walk to the Nursery this lunchtime. They now have Dark Ruby on as well, but no room on the pumps for seasonal ales. A decent scattering of customer in. Football being shonw on the TV in the lounge with the sound off, but nobody paying any attention. Still just offering the pie and mash menu.
ReplyDeleteenjoy a pie and a pint, Mudgie lad, its saving pubs.
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