Thursday, 27 February 2025

Ten of the best

Well-known beer writer Pete Brown has been given a weekly column on beer and pubs in the Sunday Times magazine. He says this will be the only regular column on the topic in any national newspaper. His first contribution is a list his ten favourite “proper” pubs. A non paywalled version of the article can be found here. He says:
Beer never tastes as good as it does in a pub — provided you’re going to the right ones. It takes longer to get drunk on beer than on wine or spirits, so the pub is built around that long, slow curve of inebriation.

The pub is our pressure release valve. I’ve seen people’s body shape change as they walk into a pub, as if they were being given an invisible hug. It’s the Rovers Return, the Woolpack or the Queen Vic, where men and women from all walks of life meet as equals. It’s where you might meet the person you’ll spend the rest of your life with. It’s the place where your mate saw that great band when they were starting out. It’s the shelter of stone walls and a roaring fire after a rainy country walk. It’s where you go for a big game, even if you can watch it at home.

Here are ten pubs I’ve drunk in professionally that are among my favourite pubby pubs. Yes, the beer is good, because it’s well chosen and well looked after. So is the food, if they serve any. What they have in common is a good atmosphere — because the people who run them care, they love the pub and they’re good at it.

The ten pubs on his list are:

  1. Blue Stoops, London W8
  2. Bow Bar, Edinburgh
  3. Coopers Tavern, Burton-on-Trent
  4. Crown Liquor Saloon, Belfast
  5. Free Trade Inn, Newcastle
  6. Grapes, Liverpool
  7. Pigs Nose Inn, Kingsbridge
  8. Rosebery, Norwich
  9. Rutland Arms, Sheffield
  10. Ty Coch Inn, Morfa Nefyn

I’ve only been in three of those - the Bow Bar, the Coopers Tavern and the Crown Liquor Saloon. The Grapes in Liverpool is the one on Roscoe Street, not the more familiar one near the Cavern Club.

Obviously any such list will be highly personal and subjective, and will also inevitably have a recency bias. You will remember a pub you visited last month much more clearly than one you haven’t been to for twenty years. On that point, he says of the Free Trade Inn, “the graffiti in the loos is an essential (if unrepeatable) read”, but apparently the pub was spruced up a few years back and that has now disappeared.

With the exception of the Coopers Tavern and the Crown Liquor Saloon, he’s avoided the “usual suspects” all too often seen on lists of classic pubs. It’s also good to see some writing about pubs that doesn’t primarily focus on their food offer, which is all too often the case with articles in the quality press.

Regular readers of this blog will know that I haven’t always been Pete Brown’s biggest fan, and the feeling is mutual. However, he does write well when he puts his political prejudices to one side, and articles like this are entirely positive for pubs.

In response, someone suggested that I should come up with my own list. I duly did this, but deliberately confined it to pubs that I have visited in the post-Covid era and so have experienced relatively recently. This means I have excluded what would otherwise have been nailed-on certainties sich as the Blue Bell in York and the Star in Bath. My ten are as follows, split evenly between urban and rural:

  1. Anchor, High Offley, Staffordshire
  2. Bell, Aldworth, Berkshire
  3. Black Horse, Clapton-in-Gordano, Somerset
  4. Boat & Horses, Newcastle-under-Lyme
  5. Cross Foxes, Shrewsbury
  6. Crown, Churchill, Somerset
  7. Great Western, Wolverhampton
  8. Hare & Hounds, Manchester
  9. North Star, Steventon, Berkshire
  10. Templar, Leeds

I did something similar back in 2013, and there are only two pubs that have carried over. Some pubs have changed, not for the better, some were only there because I had had particularly good recent experiences, while others fell out simply because I haven’t visited them recently. For example, on my two visits to the Digby Tap in Sherborne, I’ve thought it was a splendid pub, but I haven’t been there since 2004.

Of course, unless you feel welcome and at home in a pub, however good the beer, and however impressive or characterful the interior, will all count for nothing. But that doesn’t mean a “hail fellow well met” bonhomie, it’s often simply more a case that there’s nothing in the reaction of staff or other customers to make you feel uncomfortable or out of place.

33 comments:

  1. I've only been to two of Pete's list (one of them being the Ty Coch in Morfa Nefyn, which I can recommend wholeheartedly to anyone who's already got a holiday booked in Morfa Nefyn) - the Grapes wouldn't be in my top three for Liverpool, though. Then again, I've been to precisely none on yours, not even the Hare and Hounds. It just shows how different people's mental pub maps can be.

    These lists are a bit silly if you look at them practically - the Crown Liquor Saloon in Belfast, or the North Star in Steventon, might be the best pub I ever set foot in, but I'm never likely to find out. I think a lot of the time they function as the framework for purely abstract "pub porn". (And I do know that "beer drawn from the barrel and served from a jug" at the Cresselly Arms, to name one of the 'usual suspects', was considerably more appealing on the page than in reality - I mean, it was a plastic jug and looked as if it could do with a wash...)

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    1. You're probably right that these lists are more a kind of personal testament than a useful service to others, The number of people who deliberately set out to visit "interesting" pubs (as opposed to sampling lots of different beers) is pretty small, and far less than those who like visiting stately homes and castles, for example. But I'd say even a general tourist in Belfast would find a visit to the Crown Liquor Saloon interesting.

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    2. Professor Pie-Tin27 February 2025 at 22:00

      These favourite pub lists are ok but obviously entirely subjective. I mean I drank almost every day in the Hole in the Wall in Waterloo for years because I caught the train home from Waterloo. I only went in there for the Harvey's because the place stank of piss and was rough as dogs at times.
      I now live a short bus journey away from the beer-tickers' Valhalla of the Star Inn in Bath and regularly call in for a pint. Just a pint.
      Because if truth be told during the day when I visit it's usually cold, soulless and empty even though it's a wonderful building.
      The Rake just down the road is much, much better.

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    3. Yes, obviously they are highly subjective. And you can have a great time in a pub that in general terms is pretty crap.

      Plus, as I suggest, your impression very much depends on the occasion when you encounter a pub. I don't mind quiet pubs, but if a pub is totally deserted it's distinctly offputting, unless it's just after opening time.

      For example, a lot of people speak highly of the Old Green Tree in Bath, but on the one occasion I've visited, during the same holiday when I last visited the Star, it gave off a general impression of lacking TLC. There were no beermats, the gents' was out of order, so you had to use the ladies', and I had an indifferent pint.

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    4. Professor Pie-Tin28 February 2025 at 10:39

      You're right about the Old Green Tree Mudgie.
      People rave about it but it does fuck-all for me.
      The beer selection is okay but every time I've been in there it's like intruding on a private party.
      My sons rate The Raven highly too and any pub where we all get sauced together is fine by me.
      Surprised no-one has down The Harp in Covent Garden.
      I spent decades in there.

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    5. I almost put The Harp on my list but Cumbie took its place.

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  2. My list would be, in no particular order:
    1. Crown Posada, Newcastle
    2. Grey Horse, Consett
    3. Victoria Inn Durham
    4. Roscoe Head, Liverpool
    5. Hobgoblin, Reading around 1995
    6. Rising Sun, Epsom around 2000-2005
    7. Hole in the Wall, Waterloo around 2000
    8. Selden Arms, Worthing
    9. Blue Bell, York
    10. Cumberland Arms, Newcastle

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    1. It would give us some context if you told us who you were.

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    2. Exactly! It's just a list of pubs I've visited more than once or twice. Pubs that came to my mind without racking my brain too hard. So that means I've enjoyed them. Could've listed most of the pubs in Ewell from 1996-2001.

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  3. I'm not surprised Mr Brown hasn't included the licensed premises where there was that contretemps over a beer sign that had " gone missing " from a wall...

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    1. Wasn't that somewhere in the States, though?

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  4. "It’s the Rovers Return, the Woolpack or the Queen Vic, where men and women from all walks of life meet as equals".
    Maybe but it was televisions at home in the 'fifties that initiated mass pub closures, accelerated then by supermarkets in the 'sixties.

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    1. But there was a substantial increase in beer consumption, almost all in the on-trade, in the 1960s.

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  5. The Times article is what's known in the trade as a 'listicle'. A pointless and very subjective list designed purely to attract clicks and engagement without actually being informative. If the outdated description of the Free Trade is anything to go by, it's also fairly inaccurate.

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  6. Yes, it reads like it was written by AI - or in the case of Barnsley-born Pete Brown A-Up.

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    1. Yep, I doubt that commie twat ever even visited Free Trade Inn, never mind Newcastle. They're all far right bigots there.

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    2. Why do you want the far right? They are nasties. I wouldn't bother with them. The foreigners wiĺl go.

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  7. One of the biggest beer bellends on the planet is Pete. Shamelessly follows the money anywhere n’all - Guarantee numerous brown (the irony) envelopes were exchanged during the compilation of that list.

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    1. Brown is a typical socialist, I was trolling him already 25 years or so ago.

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  8. All good reading.

    Yeah, they're subjective but I find a ' favourite' pub list useful. Out of yours and Pete's, I think I've only visited one!

    So they're all now starred on my Google maps, for when I'm in the area.

    I have a similar fave list myself of pubs all over the country, but I suppose a true list would be locals or those easily reachable.

    Living in York, I could easily make a top 10, and yes Blue Bell is probably number 1.

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  9. I've only been to two of Pete's and none of yours. But I suspect the inverse numbers would be fairly similar.

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  10. It could have been worse. At least Melissa Cole didn't get the Sunday Times gig.

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  11. Two on your list, Mudge, and two on Mr Brown's.

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  12. Feels we're back in the golden era of beer writing. Top ten pubs.
    Be top ten beers next.
    Beers you have to try before you die
    Neck this list of weird grog or you're a pleb

    All top stuff

    Much better that screaming impotently at politicians online because your deluded woke world view didn't match the harsh reality of life as Pedro was making a thing of. Back to banging on about the bitter. Top stuff.

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    1. They're also doing "favourite beers to drink at home".

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    2. That's just the BlueSky mob, the natural home of the Nobby No-Mates.

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  13. Yours really is a great list !

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  14. It saddened me to note that nobody has mentioned any pubs in the South East!

    We are becoming stuck for decent hostelries, and the reliance on a decent food offering seems to be the norm these days, but we are in Harveys' and Sheps' country, and down this way, their beers are legendary!

    I had an experience the other day, after which I realised what was missing in pubs - possibly anywhere...

    I went to a wake in a great pub a few miles away, 'The Salehurst Halt', near Robertsbridge, East Sussex. The place was packed, and I knew it was good for Harveys' - as did my doctor, who gave me a lift! Everything went well, we were welcomed of course, they served the right sort of just basic grub, which was well presented, and a jolly welcome was there for the taking by the staff, who chatted with everyone. After an hour or so, we all started to drift away, shaking hands with everyone as you do, and I headed for the door with my lift home. There was a loud call from the bar, saying 'Goodbye', we'd love to see you again, thank you for coming'! I'd got so used to not having my 'custom' recognised that I was mortified in even forgetting to thank them all behind the bar! Of course, I went back and returned the good wishes, but in the old days, I'd have been much quicker at recognising a great trade by great people in a great pub!

    Small issue I know, but 'I will return...'!

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    1. I did include two in Berkshire, which is generally regarded as being in the South-East. But my list entirely depends on where I've been in the past four and a half years. I did go to Chichester last year, but didn't find any particularly memorable pubs.

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  15. The Cross Foxes and Great Western i consider as locals. The beer is always superb. Any Harveys tied house is normally magnificent too !

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  16. Professor Pie-Tin2 March 2025 at 13:04

    I know a fantastic pub.
    It's exactly 90 seconds from my front door. I can see it from my window looking down the high street and already there's a gang of regulars sat outside enjoying the weak sun. Inside will be busy as most Sundays they do 75 or so covers for their roasts at £16 a pop. Tuesday night steak night is two for £30.
    There are five ale taps, four of them rotating every week. Three ciders. Four lagers.
    I'm off the turps at the moment so when I go down later for the quiz at 6pm I'll be on pints of soda water and lime (£1).
    It opens seven days a week, is 300 years old and has two log fires burning all winter.
    It's in a part of the Cotswolds sufficiently far away from all the Soho House twats not to attract even more gawping twats peering in through my front window.
    If anyone thinks I'm going to publish it on a list for a load of pong tickers to descend and get in the way asking for samplers they're as delusional as Vlod the Two Ys is at the moment.

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  17. Professor Pie-Tin3 March 2025 at 08:43

    Another lament for a closing local.
    Ignore the request for an email or just bung in a false one.
    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/farewell-to-my-300-year-old-local-pub/

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