Thursday, 24 April 2025

Priced out

I recently saw a couple of posts on X/Twitter expressing dismay at the rising price of beer in pubs. One was taken aback to find a London pub asking £7 for a pint, while the other was appalled that the price of Guinness in a Salford pub had risen by 70p over one weekend. With the multiple cost pressures imposed on pubs by the government, we are likely to see many more such stories in the coming weeks and months.

The obvious answer is to vote with your feet, but pricing in pubs is a very different concept to that of groceries in shops. One obvious difference is that a pint in a pub is always to some extent a discretionary purchase. You don’t *have* to buy it, and always have the option of staying at home instead, as the declining sales of beer in pubs demonstrate.

A pub isn’t simply a shop that sells alcohol – each one has its own distinct characteristics in terms of its general ambiance, the other people who go there, and its wider offer in terms of such things as food, games, TV sport and live music. If you value these things in a pub, it will take quite a hike in prices to drive you elsewhere, and indeed drinking less or going less often are more likely responses.

Each pub depends on its location for a lot of its clientele, whether it is people who live locally, or who happen to be in that particular area, whether a town or city centre or close to a tourist attraction. The range of pubs from which potential customers will realistically choose is limited. Relatively few people are going to travel a substantial distance solely to visit a particular pub, and those who do are unlikely to be mainly motivated by price anyway.

The average British adult only drinks about 1¼ pints of beer in a pub each week, which really isn’t very much. Drinking a lot of beer in pubs, such that it has a significant impact on your personal budget, is very much a minority pursuit. Many pubgoers are there primarily to have a meal, and if you’re happily spending £17.95 on a braised lamb shank, whether your pint of Landlord is £4.75 or £5.50 is neither here nor there. A further factor is that, although it’s a dwindling custom, many drinks are purchased in rounds, so the impact of high prices is dulled. If you are someone who is price-sensitive and drinks a lot in pubs, then you will obviously gravitate towards Wetherspoon’s or one of the “value pubs” found in most towns, but a large segment of pubgoers do not fall into that category.

The combination of these factors results in the overall price elasticity of beer in pubs being well below 1. If you increase the price by 10%, you may lose some custom, but it will probably be considerably less than 10%. So, as I said in my recent post about Wetherspoon’s business model, over many years it has been tempting for the pub industry in general, in response to higher costs, to increase prices by just a little bit above the prevailing rate of inflation. They lose a bit of sales volume, but protect their margins. However, the end result of this is that eventually you wake up and realise that, in real terms, a pint costs twice as much as it did fifty years ago. This is a kind of “tragedy of the commons”, whereby individual pubs make decisions that seem sensible for them taken in isolation, but it has a highly negative effect on the industry as a whole. Many people now simply find drinking in pubs unaffordable.

The relatively low price elasticity of beer in pubs cuts the other way too, of course. If you cut your prices by 10%, you’re very unlikely to grow your trade by the same amount. As I wrote back in 2016, there are plenty of reasons for the long-term decline of on-trade beer sales that are nothing to do with price. If anything, it’s because, for a variety of social and legislative reasons, the range of occasions when people will even consider a visit to the pub, except if having a meal, has drastically reduced. People just don’t weave the odd one or two pints into the pattern of daily life like they once did. Reducing external cost pressures will put pubs in a healthier financial situation, but it won’t necessarily do anything to increase their trade.

In the early days of CAMRA, there was often an inverse correlation between price and beer quality. The keenest prices tended to be found in the tied houses of independent family brewers who had not invested in either expensive, ephemeral pub renovations or large-scale marketing campaigns. This is much less true nowadays, as many of the remaining family brewers have moved upmarket and concentrated on food-led pubs. Around here, Robinson’s and Lees no longer offer a cheap pint and seem to have largely given up on working-class boozers. Some of the smallest brewers such as Batham’s, Holdens and Donnington do still offer low prices, however, and Samuel Smith’s, despite several price increases since Covid, are in the North still usually cheaper than anywhere else apart from Wetherspoon’s if you can actually find one of their pubs that hasn’t been closed down.

Now, pricing seems to depend much more on the social status and spending power of the pub’s location. Some pubs deliberately use high pricing as a means of customer selection, while in less affluent areas there will be “value pubs”, often keg-only, with notably low prices and clientele to match, either independently run or offshoots of major pubcos. Some of the worst and most expensive cask beer is found in upmarket food-led pubs, where a row of colourful pumpclips on the bar adds to the atmosphere even if they don’t actually shift much of it. I’m not exactly on the breadline, but I have to say that finding a pub that is charging well above the odds for their local market is something that sticks in the craw, and is very often a signifier of the kind of “up itself” pub I’d prefer to avoid. There is no automatic correlation between more expensive and better. On the other hand, a commitment to reasonable (not dirt-cheap) prices often indicates a generally positive attitude to customer service.

There does, however, sometimes seem to be a naïvety about pricing amongst independent operators, who fail to understand that what customers are willing to pay is just as important as what the product actually costs. I recently read of one modern bar in a Northern city who were complaining that they couldn’t make any money despite being packed out all the time. In this situation, surely adding 20 or even 40p a pint across the board would hardly be noticed, but go a long way towards solving the problem.

Over the years, very much unlike supermarkets, the pub industry has demonstrated a general reluctance to compete overtly on price. There has been a kind of gentlemen’s agreement not to rock the boat. A major factor in this is that, if they were to go for a low-price strategy in their managed houses, they would undermine the business of their leased and tenanted pubs. This provided a market opportunity for Wetherspoon’s, who were new entrants solely operating managed pubs and did not have to consider the interests of tenants. While many pubs offer happy hours and midweek discounts, it is very rare to see them promoting themselves as offering consistently low prices across the board.

And while we’re on the subject, surely the time is long overdue for pubs to clearly display draught beer prices at the point of sale. They must be about the only type of retail outlet where this doesn’t happen. That way I could avoid a shock like being asked £3.15 for a half of 3.8% house beer in a very ordinary pub in Chester city centre. Wetherspoon’s do this, most craft bars do, so why can’t the general run of pubs?

32 comments:

  1. Why do you conclude that drinks purchased in rounds, dulls the impact of high prices?

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    1. (a) the price of your own drink is not so obvious if it is lumped in with others, and
      (b) there is less incentive to choose a cheaper drink for yourself if someone else is paying half or two-thirds of the time
      Yes, you may collectively say "these rounds are getting a bit dear", but someone will then respond "Well, you will go ordering Peroni!"

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  2. My local has recently upped the price of a pint by 20p (4.5%). They've held the price the same for the last 2 years so I can't complain really. Although, over the same period, the price of a pint of Abbot in the nearby Spoons has dropped by 26%. Work that one out.

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  3. My local in Bath (Star Inn) has increased the price of a pint of Bass from £4.10 to £5.30 over the past two years largely as a reflection of increased wholesale prices and higher staff, NI and energy costs. It would have to increase a lot more than that to stop me going almost every day. As you say, a pub isn't just a shop that sells beer.

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    1. And in such circumstances the most likely response is to go less often, or drink less when you do go, rather than going somewhere else.

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    2. Their Bass must still be worth £21.60 a jug.
      I think I paid £20.40 last November.

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    3. I'd say £5.30 is probably about par for the course for Bath now.

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  4. I'm beginning to think that some pubs are like those 'amusement arcade' town centre shops. Surviving on very few, but prolific customers. I suspect the distribution curve of spend per wet customers would terrify the hospitality industry.

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    1. Apparently, in its last days Robinson's Einhorn ersatz lager was largely sustained by one customer of the Bull's Head in Bollington, who used to drink 20 pints a day of it.

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  5. I would say demand is more elastic that you quote. But not so much in the short term. Over time as price increases a person may have 3 pints rather than 4. They may go out 2 evenings a week rather than 3. They may stop going down the boozer as it’s not as vibrant as it once was. These things don't happen over a session or weeks but over time. Straws, camels backs and boiling frogs come to mind.
    Beer volumes are massively down over the last 30 years for lots of different reasons. One of those will be price. If beer were still £1.19 a pint you would not keep me out the boozer.

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    1. That's more or less what I'm saying - in the short term it's not very elastic, in the longer term via a slow cumulative effect much more so.

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    2. There are , as in other products such as petrol, "breakpoints.
      You might not react from a price increase from 98p to 99p but when it goes over £1 you suddenly realise how expensive it is.

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  6. We are very lucky in my area to have Bathams, Enville, Holdens, and Wye Valley. Quality beer at reasonable prices.

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  7. Howay lads. I though the beery consensus was that pubs are great value, we don't care what the price of a pint is? People should want to pay more to support craft? The problem is the price of canned beer in Tesco?

    Wait, what? pubs are too expensive and people are voting with their feet and using them sparingly?

    At least the keg lager doesn't require turnover and Timbo keeps his prices keen.

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  8. Professor Pie-Tin26 April 2025 at 04:10

    Beers are funny old things when you think about it.
    It's just after 7pm in Palm Springs as I write this.
    The weather is what the word balmy was invented for.
    You can see why Hollywood has always vacationed here. It took us just two hours to drive from dank and chilly LAX to 28c and cloudless skies in the valley fringed by mountains which together provide perfect winters and brutal summers.
    It's 39c next Thursday.
    Our hacienda is a 1960s desert-style bungalow on the 15th hole of a championship golf course courtesy of a home exchange with our gaff in Ireland.
    I'm drinking Coors, the original not the LiteShite, smoking a great cigar and watching the corporate jets coming in to land at the nearby airport.
    In short, it's a perfect moment.
    And then suddenly for no reason I craved a pint of Rev James.
    Specifically the last pint of Rev James I had in my local over the winter.
    Cool, complex, fruity and pulled with vigour by Cameron the barman it had a creamy natural head and laced down to the end of a great pint.
    I often think Rev James is a highly under-rated beer.
    Particularly now when I crave one even though I'm heading for a jug of homemade fresh margaritas in the fridge that rattle your fillings on the way down.
    I'd still swap them for a pint of Rev James.
    Here in man-made paradise.

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    1. Not saying it's a poor beer, but I have to say that Reverend James isn't really to my taste - I find it too heavy and chewy.

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    2. Professor Pie-Tin29 April 2025 at 00:32

      Heavy and chewy is why I like it.Rammed with flavour so it is.
      Talking of prices we took a spin up into the San Bernadino mountains this morning to escape the increasing heat.
      In a place called Idyllwild we called into a bewpub and had one of their pilsners.
      19 bucks for two pints - just over seven quid each.
      There was nothing remotely attractive about the bar - it reminded me of being in Homebase.
      And the beer was just ordinary homebrew.
      But seven quid a pint ?
      Sod that for a game of soldiers

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  9. 5 quid for a pint of cask?
    Pond water is free and less likely to give you the trots.

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  10. The "jesus wept, how much?" is all part of the Great British pub experience. You're not meant to know how much it is before ordering and meant to get a nasty shock when you do. It's what keeps people coming back for more.

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  11. Whenever my local Old Gits Society meets, on the last Wednesday of the month, we visit a different Kent pub for lunch.

    The menu is usually formed around a basic fish and chips/chilli sort of deal, and the maximum we ever get through is two pints of Harveys - if that! The bill is automatically divided equally, and nobody seems to care, but the idea is that we all have a great time, the eventual bill is around £30.00 a head, and we all enjoy the banter, the craic - whatever!

    But some pubs will rack up the wine list costs for some pretty ordinary and dire stuff, so it's never considered by the GITS! Maybe that's where the profit really lies for some of these pubs?

    (Incidentally, Harvey's sell their own beer in their own houses with a choice of some superb ales! The 'Armada' we had last time was the best pint I've had in years)!

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  12. 20th Century Relic29 April 2025 at 18:17

    Never mind beer, how much is a packet of crisps these days? Twice recently I've paid 6 or even 7 quid for a pint of ale and crisps (in the Midlands). But in both cases they were the kind of pub where beer was likely to be expensive anyway.

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    1. The fact that single packets of crisps aren't sold so much in shops nowadays means that people lose a sense of a yardstick of how much they cost. Rarely under a quid in pubs now.

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    2. 20th Century Relic30 April 2025 at 18:26

      Indeed, the premium brands were over a quid in 2019 BC (Before Covid). They must be pushing two quid nowadays?

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    3. Packet of Burts is £1.30 in my local.

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  13. Oh no, not Exmoor as well.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/05/02/labours-assault-on-small-businesses/

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    1. Mega Lolz at the labour luvvies the CAMRAs all voted for Rachel from Accounts.

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    2. Even bigger lolz Cookie that the only politician that gets pubs is Curmudgeons mate, Nigel.

      No other politician looks comfortable in a pub, looks like he likes them and uses them, and frankly gets them. Nigel goes in a pub regularly for a pint not a photo op. Every other politician looks like an uncomfortable guest with a rictus grin wanting it to be over as quickly as possible when they pop in for a pretend to be a regular person photo op. Apart from Angela, maybe, she looks like she would set up a line of shots, snort a line then drag an unfortunate victim into the ladies trap to ride him like Seabiscuit.

      That the one politician that cares about pubs is detested by the likes of Fighting Pete, Melissa, Craftie Curtis is hilarious,
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    3. Eye, lads, Nige will be PM. Smoking in pubs will return. The price of a pint will fall. A golden age of pubs is coming.

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    4. Like pubs will survive Rachel? Ha Ha.

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  14. Professor Pie-Tin4 May 2025 at 13:04

    A final observation on prices from our latest sojourn to the USA.
    We did very little eating and drinking away from our golf course villa.
    Even though we're on the comfortable side of life the prices were simply off-putting.
    Pints ( smaller ones than ours ) averaged £7 - plus a dollar tip for each one is considered the norm.
    The pizzas at the local joint started at $32 for a plain Margherita and went up to $45 for the seafood.
    Everyone everywhere expected a minimum 20% tip - being British I gave them less and sometimes more depending on the service.
    I could go on but my point is however expensive anyone thinks boozing is in Blighty - and it can be very pricey - we are comparatively lucky.
    Fags are much cheaper there but trying to find somewhere to smoke them with a pint almost impossible. Beer gardens are very thin on the ground and when you ask someone for the smoking area you're usually given a look of disdain and pointed to the road outside.
    Even by a sweaty fat fucker who didn't see the irony.
    On the plus side service, as always, in virtually every place we went to was friendly and very professional.
    On that aspect we still have progress to make.

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  15. Professor Pie-Tin5 May 2025 at 22:12

    Four pints of Fullers ESB and four pints of Brains SA with a couple of whiskey chasers.
    It's like getting pissed in the last century.

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