Friday, 11 April 2025

Reinventing the pub

Last month, Wetherspoon’s announced that they were removing steaks, gammon and mixed grills from their menu. This resulted in a predictable outbreak of grumbling, but it’s the only the latest example of a long record of discontinuing supposedly popular menu items. One of the most notorious was dropping Sunday roasts in 2016. Later they discontinued traditional Christmas turkey dinners. It is another example of the company taking a somewhat ruthless attitude to revamping their offer to increase their profitability. They must have decided that steaks were a declining market and required too much time and effort in the kitchen.

This month, the pub trade will experience a massive increase in costs, with swingeing hikes in national insurance and business rates, and a rise in the minimum wage well above inflation. The stagnant general economic climate means that customers don’t have the money for large price increases. The inevitable result is that pubs will struggle, and a fair number will end up closing. But it’s a good bet that Wetherspoon’s, while they will experience the same pressures, will manage to weather the storm.

The first pint I ever bought in a pub cost me 21p in 1976. The Bank of England’s official inflation calculator* reckons that the current equivalent price would be £1.39. But, in reality, a similar pint in a pub around here today would cost at least £4, almost three times as much.

It’s often not recognised that buying a pint of beer in a pub is primarily buying a service, not simply a physical product. The wages of the staff and the overheads of the premises also have to be taken into account. Over time, as real wages increase, while manufacturing efficiencies reduce the price of physical products, the price of services rises vis-à-vis that of goods.

It is generally acknowledged that the price elasticity of a pint a beer in a pub is well below 1. If you increase the price by 10%, you will lose some sales, but almost certainly well below 10%. So, over time, it has always been tempting for the pub industry in general, in response to higher costs, to increase prices by just a little bit above the prevailing rate of inflation. They lose a bit of sales volume, but protect their margins.

This makes sense in the short term, and I do not blame any pub operator or individual publican for doing it. But it has a cumulative effect, and suddenly you realise that a pint is twice as much in real terms as it used to be, and increasingly unaffordable for many people. To try to break this vicious circle, Wetherspoon’s have ended up reinventing the pub model from the ground up. The fundamental point is that the underlying cost assumptions of the pub trade should not be taken as fixed.

This wasn’t something that was in place from the beginning. Tim Martin started out by converting former shops to offer something that most London pubs at the time didn’t – cask beer, food service, consistent opening hours and a comfortable, welcoming, unthreatening environment. In the early days, they weren’t markedly cheap compared with the competition. It wasn’t until the mid-90s that they started expanding outside their initial South-East base – the Moon Under Water in Manchester city centre opened in August 1995.

But it is an approach that has evolved over time. Every aspect of the pub cost base has been challenged in the quest to make a lower margin viable. A key aspect of this is the “pile it high, sell it cheap” approach. Wetherspoon pubs are markedly larger than the average, so the overheads are spread over a larger sales base. Over time, they have disposed of many of the smaller premises acquired earlier in their history. They may make less profit for pint, but they make more in total.

As the largest single on-trade purchaser of alcoholic drinks, beer in particular, they are in a position to drive a hard bargain with suppliers. Over the years, they have had several high-profile disputes with suppliers over costs, most notably ditching virtually all Heineken brands three years ago. While some micro-breweries have a long-term relationship with them, they are trading margin for security, and others won’t deal with them because they don’t find the prices they are willing to pay acceptable.

As I mentioned with the menu changes, all aspects of the operation are constantly reviewed to maximise efficiency and drive out costs. The idea that the popular Wetherspoon App does this may seem counter-intuitive, as it introduces table service for drinks, but in fact it automates the ordering process and makes managing workflow much easier, this smoothing out the peaks and troughs. They also constantly review their property portfolio to weed out poorer-performing branches and eliminate expensive leases. If an apparently busy Wetherspoon pub is unexpectedly disposed of, it’s probably because the lease cost was deemed excessive.

The pricing is finely tuned between different locations, often in a seemingly perverse way. In particularl, they charge a substantial premium in the centres of larger cities, where they have a more captive and less cost-conscious market. They are also often not quite as cheap as people imagine. Pretty much everything on the drinks menu is priced below the nearby competition, but the differential on cask beer is greater than that on kegs and lagers because that is the figure most often used to make price comparisons.

They have also tried to eliminate many of the aspects that make pubs unattractive to customers. Most of their premises are conversions from other type of business rather than former pubs, and where they have acquired existing pubs they have typically totally remodelled the interior. They are largely open-plan without nooks and crannies, and have a large windows on the street so you can see in from outside. There is never a fear of going in the wrong side.

They, in general, avoid features such as live and piped music and TV sport, which do appeal to some but on the other hand can be seen as divisive. People are never going to say “I don’t want to meet up at Spoons because of X” – in a sense they are a kind of lowest common denominator pub. Food and drink menus are put out on all tables so you know exactly what is available and how much it will cost. They also open, and serve food during, long and predictable hours, so that potential customers have the confidence they can go there without worrying about unexpectedly finding it closed. The whole process of a pub visit is made as painless and risk-free as possible.

The overall result of this is that their premises can often come across as large, impersonal and soulless. They lack the intimacy and character often associated with traditional pubs. While they often occupy architecturally impressive buildings, they fill them with cheap, generic loose furniture. You rarely feel cosy in Wetherspoon’s, and I suspect there is an unspoken objective to prevent customers feeling too settled and minimise dwell time.

Cask beer is a key aspect of their appeal, and their association with CAMRA in the form of discount vouchers gives them valuable low-cost publicity. But the standards of cellarmanship vary widely – some branches are consistently good, others much less so – and all too often the beer, even if in decent nick, gives the impression of having been drawn through a very long pipe. They also have a knack of having eight or ten handpumps on the bar but still offering an oddly unbalanced range.

Wetherspoon’s are often accused of having an exploitative attitude towards their staff, but this largely comes across as an exercise in sour grapes. They offer conditions equal to or better than other major players in the market, and have all the benefits and well-developed human resources policies you would expect from a large company. They also offer the opportunity of career progression from an entry-level job, which is not the case for someone doing bar work in an independent pub. The staff are kept busy, but they often give the impression of being more cheerful than those in other chains, and at a recent local CAMRA meeting we were given an impromptu presentation by the manager of one of our branches whose genuine enthusiasm for the opportunities the company had given her was very evident.

In a similar vein, some people object to Tim Martin’s well-documented and public support for Brexit. That is their right, of course, but to boycott a company on political grounds often comes across as cutting off your nose to spite your face, and unless you read the company magazine it is not something you would even notice in their pubs. In any case, the people who are most vocal on this are probably those who would rarely set foot in the place anyway.

But, despite these negative features, it’s impossible to ignore the low prices, and there will be plenty of customers in the typical Wetherspoon’s who otherwise wouldn’t be in a pub at all. Personally, I would rarely use one just for a drink, although I might occasionally call in the one in central Stockport on a midday lunchtime when many other places nearby are closed. I do use them sometimes for food, as even setting aside the value for money it can be difficult to find anywhere else in the vicinity with a comparable choice. I’m certainly not an uncritical cheerleader, but I recognise them as a well-run and innovative company who offer something that a lot of customers want.

Many other pub operators will look at Wetherspoon’s and ask how they can be expected to compete with that. The answer is that, in many cases, they simply can’t. The once-common mainstream pubs offering an unexceptional range of beers and food are much thinner on the ground now in town and city centres. But established pubs have no right to continued existence, and Wetherspoon’s have acted as a classic disruptor in a complacent market.

If you want to compete, you have to offer something that Wetherspoon’s don’t. For example, in the centre of Stockport, there is a keg-only sports boozer right opposite Wetherspoon’s and an award-winning craft beer bar a few doors down, together with a historic pub with a high-end food offer a couple of hundred yards away, all of which seem to do well. Plus the Wetherspoon’s model is essentially to depend on existing footfall in their locality rather than being destination pubs that people will make a special journey to visit. Relatively few of the customers in Stockport suburbs like Heaton Moor or Marple will see the town-centre Spoons as a direct competitor to their local pubs.

The existing major pub operators made a few half-hearted attempts to compete with Wetherspoon’s by offering something similar – the Goose chain created by what was Bass particularly springs to mind. The British pub market has never been a closed shop, and throughout their existence Wetherspoon’s have been able to obtain most of the new licences they wanted. But, while the opportunities were there, the established operators did not take them because they would have undermined their existing businesses, and in the long run they paid the price.

There is a cloud on the horizon, though. Much of what Wetherspoon’s have achieved is the vision of one man, and founder Tim Martin reaches the age of 70 later this month. He’s not going to be around for ever, and the risk must be that the chain ends up going the way of many other once-successful British brands, and loses its distinctive appeal for what no doubt seemed entirely sensible commercial reasons at the time.

* In my view, this understates the genuine rate of inflation, as it has been rebased from RPI to CPI. But even using RPI it would come out as £2.17, so the basic point stands.

31 comments:

  1. I thought the classic gripe was the coverage of Tim Martin's advice to staff to go and work at Tesco when lockdown came. It proved to be sound advice despite the initial media criticism.

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    1. Many of the usual suspects claimed he actually sacked his staff, which was of course total bollocks. But saying "go and work at Tesco and we'll keep your job open" did make a lot of sense.

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    2. Exactly, and this was one example how the truth was twisted during the plandemic years.

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  2. Professor Pie-Tin11 April 2025 at 13:32

    I had a pint of Abbott Ale in the airside 'spoons at Gatwick last week and it was utterly vile and undrinkable. The chicken Ramen I had with it was equally disgusting, the stock clearly made from powdered vegetable crap. I doubt it matters to Tim because the place was rammed.
    On the other hand every time I go to watch Somerset play in Taunton the 'Spoons there is delightful with a great selection of beer and cider that's well kept.
    I excuse Timbo's occasional dud because I admire his business model. But also because I once took a taxi from Totnes to Dartmouth whose driver owned the taxi company and who happened to be Timbo's personal driver on his regular unannounced visits to his pubs. This feller spends many hours in his company with just the two of them in the car and he assured me you couldn't hope to meet a nicer person. He is in private exactly what he is like in public.
    I find his decency commendable but also the fact that even though he could sit on his arse counting his gazillions he still cares passionately about the beer he sells.

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    1. His business model is identical to that of supermarkets. That's nothing to admire when it involves small businesses lured in to the promises of large volume sales, but being paid a pittance for their beers. The business model devalues the entire cask beer sector.

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    2. There are parallels, as I mention, but I wouldn't say the business model is identical. The major supermarkets were not responding to a situation where there was a cosy consensus that the real price of groceries should steadily increase over time.

      Without Spoons, there would be a lot less cask beer sold in Britain, and many of the people drinking it in Spoons wouldn't be drinking in pubs at all.

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    3. I love this gormless idea that pubs should be a cosy cartel to support vanity brewers and create the idea of a high value product rather than operate in a market where their price and value is discovered.

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    4. Professor Pie-Tin12 April 2025 at 19:12

      Yup, just like supermarkets he stacks 'em high and sells 'em cheap. And it's that easy to do there's a whole host of imitators doing the same thing ... oh wait.
      And " The business model devalues the entire cask beer sector " is a good one too. Without 'spoons I doubt there'd be a cask beer sector.
      And if small businesses don't want to lured in with the promise of large volume sales then they can go somewhere else to sell their home brew murk. Good luck with that.
      This sort of cobblers from people who wouldn't know a balance sheet from a bog roll and all sorts of other nonsense has been aimed at Timbo over the years.
      And he's still having the last laugh.

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  3. The menu items being discontinued are pretty much everything they sell that needs to be properly cooked, rather than heated up from chilled or frozen, which will give an immediate saving on staff hours and expense.

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  4. My first pints were Wethered's SPA from a wooden cask in 1970 at 12p a pint. Absolutely delicious !

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  5. I am rather partial to their fish and chips. I very much doubt if the fish is reheated from chilled or frozen - surely you're not going to get that nice crispy batter by doing that? And their pizza can also be good (depends on the pub though). Again, not pre-prepared.

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    1. The fish and chips are frozen, as are the pizzas.

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    2. The basic Margherita pizza bases are frozen, but the extra toppings are applied by hand.

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    3. Any pub with a varied menu like Spoons is freezer to oven, griddle,fryer, microwave.

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    4. I think that their breakfast and chicken katsu are good too, for the price. About the cask quality, in Oxted it was always warm and flat, in Consett always top notch.

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  6. Measuring Worth is arguably one of the best ways of comparing the historic value of money. It explains how difficult it is and gives lots of options. In this case the modern vale seems to be somewhere around £3. Which happens to be roughly what I think a pint should cost. https://www.measuringworth.com/calculators/ukcompare

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  7. Some Brits need a bargain but all Brits love a bargain. Spoons is popular for as you point out, somewhat obvious reasons.

    Dropping the steaks points to a general societal decline if you want to notice it. Steak and chips is no longer for the working class customers. The country is getting poorer. Money is an analogue of energy. In history it was minerals, in the 20th century it became energy. Net zero, sky high energy prices is s poor declining country. Soon steak and chips will be out of reach of the nice middle class pubs.


    When last I was in one, it was the Stockport spoons. I’d taken my nieces out to see the art gallery then Staircase house, a walk around the shops before they closed and as I’d already put a McDonalds into them, and walked about a lot, needed a large scotch. The smarter market pubs looked nice and family friendly but we headed to spoons because it was, like McDonalds, a known quantity. I knew there were bowls of loaded nachos and loaded chips and chicken strips they would want. Soft drinks, ice cream, Kids welcome, clean toilets. As we sat down outside the pub it dawned on me there were 3 differences to the other establishments I could have taken them.

    Guaranteed kids welcome (not begrudged, actually welcome) with things they would like to order, the price, this was half the price all in. The clientele. It was a bit more working class. Not rough, not sweary. A bit more bald, fat and tattooed. But safe and pleasant enough. I thought the only really reason to pay more would be to sit among middle class people. I figured it was good for my nieces to see and be comfortable in places their parents wouldn’t take them. When they go to university they will likely need to know how Spoons works as cheap drinks will be a feature of the experience. Later on in the evening as I took them to a posh restaurant they asked whether we could go back to Spoons. They loved it. My sister is not best pleased they now want tattoos, however.

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    1. You should write a novel.

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    2. I have, a few, under a pseudonym. They sold reasonably well for their genre of sexual fetish. There's a quid in perverts.

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    3. Write a comedic murder mystery based in pub and brewery world, "Pete Brown" could be one of the characters, and "Humphrey" too. Put Curmudgeon there too, he could be the lad trying to solve the case.

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  8. During the brexit and Covid times, my gen z nephews boo’d and jeered about ‘spoons or more so Martins views/comments and suggested their dad shouldn’t go to ‘spoons.

    Then they went to Uni….

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  9. Professor Pie-Tin13 April 2025 at 11:35

    Curmudgeonly detective who liked a pint and a gasper ? I think John Thaw had that one covered - before the fags got him.

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    1. So Wetherspoons are lying, Mudgie?
      "All pizzas are made using fresh dough (not premade)"
      "Every pizza is handmade to order"
      "The raw fish fillets (cod – or haddock in Scotland) used at Wetherspoon are freshly battered by hand and cooked to golden crispy perfection"

      https://www.jdwetherspoon.com/news/take-a-fresh-look/

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  10. I usually have the curries when in Wetherspoons, they never let you down and have never been taken off the menu. There are some good chicken dishes too, recently introduced. The Wiltshire ham, egg and chips is decent also. All have an option for a pint included.

    Piece on Spoons in today's Conservative Woman. Good comments section:

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/wetherspoons-the-target-of-snobs-and-snitches/

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  11. Professor Pie-Tin14 April 2025 at 08:30

    My eldest son lives in a Wiltshire town of 16,000 souls. He told me yesterday that the fourth pub to close in the town in the past year meant there is just a single pub left.
    As he was telling me I was drinking a disappointingly average pint of Bass - a shadow of its former greatness - that cost me £5.70 in my local.
    Meanwhile there are three 'Spoons within five miles of that Wiltshire town that are - as I write this at 8.30am - all open and serving breakfast.
    My favourite has 12 ales on tap some for less than £3 a pint.
    You tell me who is getting the pub business right ...

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  12. Excellent read.

    In some towns, in places like Cambridgeshire (St Neots or St Ives) or Somerset, the Spoons is the place the gentlefolk go to, hardly noticing the 9am Carling drinkers on the way to the main dining area.

    My parents were always impressed by Spoons I took them to (Portishead a standout) and not just on price.

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    1. Yes, in market towns and seaside resorts, the Spoons is often the genteel pub that serves food, as opposed to the wet-led boozers with Sky Sports. Uttoxeter is like that.

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    2. I took my elderly neighbour for a Christmas lunch. He was very impressed by the pricing and kept studying the menu in awe.

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  13. Something that often gets missed is that Wetherspoons are generally very good for disabled access, particularly for wheelchair users in a way traditional/historic pubs often can't manage due to levels/space/layout.

    Even where not all on one level, they go to some lengths to provide lifts and ramps, there's space to move around and a good chance to get a seat/table that can be rearranged, and accessible toilets, some of which are as good as you will find anywhere in terms of space and equipment. Often the best choice other than a purpose-built Toby Carvery on a bypass somewhere...

    Stockport Spoons probably not the best example though, in terms of cleanliness, particularly the gents, and general noisy barn-like atmosphere once it gets a bit busy.

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